According to surveys conducted approximately 1/3 of American's own guns. Again, we have the minority ruling the majority. If more people don't own guns, why then are the ones that do make the most noise? Oh, wait, I know. It's the money. The money the gun manufacturers make and the propaganda they spew convincing people they need them.
When ( and if) the police authorities conclude their investigation on the Walmart shooting in Queensbury it will be revealed that the shooter and the victim were involved in an illegal drug deal gone bad. That Walmart parking lot is a favorite location for illicit drug deliveries and pickups as it is conveniently accessed from I 87 ( drugs coming up from Schenectady, Albany and Troy and
“ local customers” easily directed to transact business under clearly identified parking lot designations in a very busy and crowded location.
Reply to Michael Muller--Any "deal" has already "gone bad" when one or all of the persons involved bring guns to the transaction. In fact, any transaction involving the words "illegal drug deal" is already gone bad, add in the guns and you escalate the "badness" into cosmic dimensions. I take issue with repeated blaming of "Schenectady, Albany, and Troy" as sources of these bad ol' meanies who bring in those bad ol' deals. If there were not customers those drugs would not be coming from anywhere. Rather than blame other communities, maybe the community where this shooting happened needs to find out why there is a demand for drugs there in the first place. Maybe this "busy" parking lot needs more supervision. Based on your comment, it sounds dangerous for any customers who might just be coming to buy regular groceries. If that is the case, then this problem needs to be fixed before more people get hurt or killed.
But what are your thoughts on the point of this article? Don’t you agree there are too many guns and too many in the hands of men that shouldn’t own any?
There are too many damn guns, and nothing is going to change that. Not because of the Second Amendment, which, IMO, has been misinterpreted to mean unlimited right to firearms. Those who believe that always neglect the part that says "A well-regulated militia..." See that part about "well-regulated?" That gives the Government the right to decide who can own firearms and what kind. Also, I don't understand why so many find firearms so appealing, but whatever floats your boat.... But, there definitely are too many damn guns.
Totally agree that there are too many damn guns. Not part of the collective "we" who accept the idea that a gun or semi-automatic firearm will protect your family and your property anywhere you happen to roam. The bigger danger is the idea in too many people's heads that anyone or everyone is a potential threat. Now, that may be true, but from the gun-toting misguided and troubled individuals. Divided we fall.
Excellent article. We need Gun reform. Can’t we at least get rid of those ak47s or whatever they’re called. Come on Republicans. It’s mostly up to you I think.
In 1950 there were about 50 million guns in the US. In 1970 about 104 million, and today over 350 million. The number house holds in the US with gun ownership has trended down since 1970. About 47% of US households had a gun in 1970, compared about 38% in 2018. These statistics came from various sources, to include the RAND corp. University of Chicago NORC, Wkipedia etc. Are there too many guns, who knows, but we did not have mass shooting in the 70s like we do today. Are we experiencing a mental health crisis in this country? Probably, based recent reporting. This article is immediately followed by a recount of a student being vilified and harassed on social media. Please connect the dots, This country is filled with hate, and angry people for any number of causes. People are lashing out, wanting to be heard, some just want the recognition. Consequences for ones actions is important, be responsible for ones actions is important. We are losing our way and we need to fix this. Guns do not shoot people, People shoot guns.
Make no mistake, it is a discussion, the debate is over. Like many other issues, climate change or crime to name two. There is no debate. All you have to do is look at the research.
Spoiler: crime is down, and climate change is up.(And gun deaths are up.)
Missing:
• all the research that shows we have too many guns
• all the research that shows more guns equal more deaths
• all the research that shows the states with the laxest gun laws have the most deaths.
Also missing (perhaps the most important): removing the people without common sense from the discussion. And stopping those folks from thinking it is a debate or we should listen to them.
One other thing that is missing, which is highlights all the above: graphics. (I know that isn’t possible here, but I do feel these things get lost in the in addressing this issue.)
If there were venn diagrams, we would see the problem.
Two circles: one with all the politicians that get money from the gun lobby and one of the politicians that are for gun control. Circles don’t intersect.
[In my big picture of campaign reform, if you get money (from a lobbyist/corporation) --- you can’t vote on any issue that would relate to that company.]
Yes, to all you say and to the other comments. Just to add a few points:until recently the federal government was banned gathering information. (I think that the National Institute of Health which had collected data was defunded...a way of silencing truth, showing the power of the NRA to censor.) Some facts: there are more deaths in texas by far than in any other state. Other top states for gun death: Mississippi, Louisiana, Missouri, Alabama....The states with the highest rate of gun deaths are those with the highest gun ownership Fewer guns, fewer deaths--Hawaii, Massachusetts, N.J, RI, New York have the lowest rates.. The Assault Weapon Ban resulted in much less death. However, it was not extended beyond its ten years. Follow the money...Stefanik has a 100% rating from the NRA...and the obstacle is gun lobby and the Republicans who are paid by them and a culture obsessed with guns- where the second amendment seems to be more essential than the other amendments and life..
I totally agree. People and the ones who are making money from this hide behind the 2nd amendment.
That amendment was meant to insure that the states had a military presence or was capable of having one since there was no standing army and policing was a hit or miss affair at the time.
According to surveys conducted approximately 1/3 of American's own guns. Again, we have the minority ruling the majority. If more people don't own guns, why then are the ones that do make the most noise? Oh, wait, I know. It's the money. The money the gun manufacturers make and the propaganda they spew convincing people they need them.
You are “dead” on right.
When ( and if) the police authorities conclude their investigation on the Walmart shooting in Queensbury it will be revealed that the shooter and the victim were involved in an illegal drug deal gone bad. That Walmart parking lot is a favorite location for illicit drug deliveries and pickups as it is conveniently accessed from I 87 ( drugs coming up from Schenectady, Albany and Troy and
“ local customers” easily directed to transact business under clearly identified parking lot designations in a very busy and crowded location.
Reply to Michael Muller--Any "deal" has already "gone bad" when one or all of the persons involved bring guns to the transaction. In fact, any transaction involving the words "illegal drug deal" is already gone bad, add in the guns and you escalate the "badness" into cosmic dimensions. I take issue with repeated blaming of "Schenectady, Albany, and Troy" as sources of these bad ol' meanies who bring in those bad ol' deals. If there were not customers those drugs would not be coming from anywhere. Rather than blame other communities, maybe the community where this shooting happened needs to find out why there is a demand for drugs there in the first place. Maybe this "busy" parking lot needs more supervision. Based on your comment, it sounds dangerous for any customers who might just be coming to buy regular groceries. If that is the case, then this problem needs to be fixed before more people get hurt or killed.
But what are your thoughts on the point of this article? Don’t you agree there are too many guns and too many in the hands of men that shouldn’t own any?
Just an update that it was reported yesterday it was a road rage incident.
There are too many damn guns, and nothing is going to change that. Not because of the Second Amendment, which, IMO, has been misinterpreted to mean unlimited right to firearms. Those who believe that always neglect the part that says "A well-regulated militia..." See that part about "well-regulated?" That gives the Government the right to decide who can own firearms and what kind. Also, I don't understand why so many find firearms so appealing, but whatever floats your boat.... But, there definitely are too many damn guns.
Totally agree that there are too many damn guns. Not part of the collective "we" who accept the idea that a gun or semi-automatic firearm will protect your family and your property anywhere you happen to roam. The bigger danger is the idea in too many people's heads that anyone or everyone is a potential threat. Now, that may be true, but from the gun-toting misguided and troubled individuals. Divided we fall.
Excellent article. We need Gun reform. Can’t we at least get rid of those ak47s or whatever they’re called. Come on Republicans. It’s mostly up to you I think.
I’d be happy to see mandatory training.
In 1950 there were about 50 million guns in the US. In 1970 about 104 million, and today over 350 million. The number house holds in the US with gun ownership has trended down since 1970. About 47% of US households had a gun in 1970, compared about 38% in 2018. These statistics came from various sources, to include the RAND corp. University of Chicago NORC, Wkipedia etc. Are there too many guns, who knows, but we did not have mass shooting in the 70s like we do today. Are we experiencing a mental health crisis in this country? Probably, based recent reporting. This article is immediately followed by a recount of a student being vilified and harassed on social media. Please connect the dots, This country is filled with hate, and angry people for any number of causes. People are lashing out, wanting to be heard, some just want the recognition. Consequences for ones actions is important, be responsible for ones actions is important. We are losing our way and we need to fix this. Guns do not shoot people, People shoot guns.
Thank you for braving the predictable onslaught from gun fanatics.
There are many things this discussion is missing.
Make no mistake, it is a discussion, the debate is over. Like many other issues, climate change or crime to name two. There is no debate. All you have to do is look at the research.
Spoiler: crime is down, and climate change is up.(And gun deaths are up.)
Missing:
• all the research that shows we have too many guns
• all the research that shows more guns equal more deaths
• all the research that shows the states with the laxest gun laws have the most deaths.
Also missing (perhaps the most important): removing the people without common sense from the discussion. And stopping those folks from thinking it is a debate or we should listen to them.
One other thing that is missing, which is highlights all the above: graphics. (I know that isn’t possible here, but I do feel these things get lost in the in addressing this issue.)
If there were venn diagrams, we would see the problem.
Two circles: one of people who are against gun laws and one with people who have common sense or legitimate facts that support what they want to believe (https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/). There would be little intersection.
Two circles: one with all the politicians that get money from the gun lobby and one of the politicians that are for gun control. Circles don’t intersect.
[In my big picture of campaign reform, if you get money (from a lobbyist/corporation) --- you can’t vote on any issue that would relate to that company.]
Yes, to all you say and to the other comments. Just to add a few points:until recently the federal government was banned gathering information. (I think that the National Institute of Health which had collected data was defunded...a way of silencing truth, showing the power of the NRA to censor.) Some facts: there are more deaths in texas by far than in any other state. Other top states for gun death: Mississippi, Louisiana, Missouri, Alabama....The states with the highest rate of gun deaths are those with the highest gun ownership Fewer guns, fewer deaths--Hawaii, Massachusetts, N.J, RI, New York have the lowest rates.. The Assault Weapon Ban resulted in much less death. However, it was not extended beyond its ten years. Follow the money...Stefanik has a 100% rating from the NRA...and the obstacle is gun lobby and the Republicans who are paid by them and a culture obsessed with guns- where the second amendment seems to be more essential than the other amendments and life..
Gun training would be a good start toward Gun reform.
I totally agree. People and the ones who are making money from this hide behind the 2nd amendment.
That amendment was meant to insure that the states had a military presence or was capable of having one since there was no standing army and policing was a hit or miss affair at the time.