then why do you support republicans who lie and have policies that work against the common person (I get it you millionaires aren't thinking about that)
Warren County and much of the North Country are perfect examples of the party loyalty or die platform. Many good people endorse and tolerate Stefanik out of party loyalty because they are afraid of the consequences.
We saw this is Queensbury in 2017 when Republican councilman Tony Metivier voted against changing the town's legal representation to someone on the GOP committee. The next year, and several years after that, Metivier was not endorse by Warren County Republican Committee. For doing what he thought was right.
"I realize that multitudes and multitudes of people for various reasons of their own enslave themselves every hour of every day to this or that doctrine, this or that delusion of safety, this or that lie. Anti-Semites, for example are slaves to a delusion. People who hate Negroes are slaves. People who love money are slaves. We are living in a universe really of willing slaves, which makes the concept of liberty and the concept of freedom so dangerous.” - James Baldwin
We have witnessed the rise and fall of America’s Mayor. Rudolf Giuliani moral compass has been on a steep decline for many years but jumping on the Trump train was the most egregious one. That decision has led to not only his historical demise but also his financial ruin and.
Ken wrote: "Two weeks from now, I will vote for the candidates best qualified to do the job."
Over the years, I've hired many new employees after conducting interviews with the final few candidates. I've also hired a few interns with no interviews after seeing them on the job. I've found there's no substitute for actual job performance as the determining factor in whom to hire.
I think it's precisely the same when we hire a candidate for elective office. We make the best choices when we view the candidates' actual job performance. Sure, debates can serve as a kind of job interview. But debates, especially in today's debate formats, are not always a determinative factor.
This year, we have two candidates for president who have served in high-level elective office of national significance, one as president, the other as senator and vice-president. We had the opportunity to view their job performance over a number of years.
Based on job performance alone, the choice is a stark one. Ethical performance over corrupt performance. Competence over incompetence. Service over selfishness, Dignity over dishonor.
This is the easiest hire we've ever had to make in our lives. And the most important by far.
are you suggesting that you could hire someone off the street, no interview and they would have just as good a chance of being a good employee as one you interviewed?
When my husband worked at a managerial position for an expanding locally owned company and was invited to join a civic “service” organization he was advised to join the Republican Party. I found that disconcerting then and still do as I know that pressure still exists.
I continue to be dismayed by the way the Republican candidates in NY are hiding out and not having Town Halls or debates with their opponents. And then I listen to WRVT from Vermont and I hear candidates sitting down with Mikaela Lefrak and having a conversation about issues. Nationally this may be the way the Republican candidates have been told to run their elections.
Plus (after going to your link). With gerrymandering and incumbent power (more likely to win), why would they.
Gerald Malloy is debating Bernie Sanders because his only chance of winning.. probably even being seen is in the debate... if he was the incumbent, would not happen
When I, my husband and 2 children moved to Queensbury 36 years ago, a friend told me I should be a registered Republican if I wanted to get anything (favors??) done. I balked and remained a registered Democrat. Let me be clear: I have voted for a republican here and there, because I thought they were the better candidate. That experience 36 years ago was my first realization that this was going to be a politically difficult area for me to reside in. Thank goodness my town has had the benefit of good Democrat officials and my faith has been rewarded over the years. How sad that people cannot look beyond the party and look at the person.
The reality in upstate is that if you want to win an election, it is far either to do if you do it on the Republican ticket. I think if you look closely, you see lots of moderates elected at Republicans, but they would never admit that.
President Obama (2017) “Those who watch Fox News and those who read The New York Times occupy completely different realities,” he said.
He pointed specifically to Fox News, saying that the network portrays him “in weird ways.”
“If I watch Fox News, I wouldn’t vote for me,” he said. “I would watch it and say who is that guy? This character Barack was portrayed in weird ways. It is all edited and shaped. … The point is, you get multiple realities.” or as Kellyanne Conway phrased it in 2017, "alternative facts".
Sadly, this is the world we live in.
Time to think outside party loyalty and examine each candidate's strengths and weaknesses.
As a former long-time republican, it is increasingly more difficult to find republican candidates who are moderate, who believe in science and working with both sides of the aisle to get things done for the people and who do not spew Trump lies as truths.
Part of the popularity is the fact that much of the gQp has been dumbed down to the level where even the most egregious lies, will be believed.
It is a vicious circle. they hear lies and will beleve the lies that are added onto, and it because "on fox they said..." is their source, and not knowing it wasn't even the news portion of the channel.
And to line up the ignorance on your part, some how you thank that link disproves what I wrote. Just as you also think it is a proper response to what Chriss wrote.
Now you can go back to your bubble and be the whiner you like to project over there and go on with your persecution complex and double down on your hate, thinking you can be a racist, because racism is popular
Really fascinating....I wonder if you had more discussions with your mother than your father about anything to do with politics although maybe the war was another issue with your dad's rather conclusive opinion about what "YOU" would be doing when you became of age. You were "thinking" nice and early and I wonder how your mother, perhaps unknowingly, managed to encourage that. Parents have the power over what their children think and come to believe. We all have to start somewhere but our thinking is under parental control for a good chunk of time.
My mother grew up in northern Ireland and loved everything about the Kennedys and later the Clintons, but it all seemed to be personality driven. I don't ever remember have a substantive conversation with mom about political issue, nor my dad for that matter.
We got the local newspaper every day. My dad worked nights in the factory so I never saw him watch the evening news. I seem to recall watching Walter Cronkite by myself as a kid, so maybe not.
I don't know if they would. I mean they turned on Nixon and Johnson got driven from office by the great reporting on Vietnam. All the politicians took their lumps.
(I don’t like add-on fee and I don’t like taxing visitors just because we can and they don’t get a vote.. Now that I spend two months a year traveling.. I don’t like that I am subjected to them.)
She voted for them. I emailed Honorable Duprey. SHE RESPONDED and while she was office other times. I voted for her everything I could.. I might have voted for her over Billy Jones.
She was a representative.
I am not sure if I believe that about many other politicians. Billy Jones comes close, but when I want to give him my input: I speak to his staff. But they listen
2) pos_tfnKKK I have contacted her staff several times. They don’t listen, they don’t care..
3) if pos_tfnKKK or her staff cared (spoiler- - > they don’t) about me or the district, they would stop lying.
d) Jimmy Carter was also the first president I voted for (I too have voted republican, Demorat, green, working party, write-ins and independents).
I would say, Duprey and Carter (as time has passed) not only are the most moral, and perhaps most often correct in policies, persons I have voted for in my lifetime.
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I believe most Demorats vote Demorats because they see (for the most part) their policies are for people (Why Tim Walz is a bad guy to republicans because he made sure poor children were fed in school... I don’t have a clue).
• search voter fraud, it doesn’t happen much, but almost always when it happens it is done by a republican. Same with politicians suppressing the vote.
• search ‘politician sex scandals’ or ‘politician pedophiles’ and it is overwhelmingly republicans. They also hold the lead in committing the most crimes. Hell, one guy has the lead in corruption and crimes of any president. In fact, more crimes and corruption than all others combined.
• I don’t know if I know of any Demcorat that votes to show their hate (and the gQp = “I want to own the libs”).
Most of our problems will never end until campaign reform is enacted. This includes stopping gerrymandering and campaign contributions. Of course, if you have campaign reform, there would be no republican party. When you rule by hate, likes, suppression and deception (as most all republicans do), you can only win if you cheat.
My grandmother on my mother’s side was widowed at a young age and the family survived because FDR was president. There are good reasons why he has been elevated to sainthood among Democrats.
The reason many Republicans view the guy who promised every two weeks that Covid was going away and suggested injecting bleach along with quack cures for it is viewed as the messiah is beyond me.
Thank you, Ken, interesting to read of your family's history with political parties. I know that in our area almost all people--nurses, doctors, lawyers, business people---had to register as a Republican to have a job. I know that growing up in the Bronx, our apartment building was like a little shtetl, almost all Jews who were immigrants, my father and immigrant from a little town Piaterer, near Kiev. ( Not one of the shtetls survived after WW2 and the Nazis.) They all voted Democratic; it seemed like all poor, working class, but even educated Jews always felt that Republicans had a antisemitic and racist core and were for the wealthy The first election I remember was when Eisenhower defeated Stevenson, my whole family in mourning, my father saying "people like the military." But Eisenhower on many issues was good, seeing the danger of the military industrial complex...but bad in terms of his treatment of Mexicans ("wetack" policy). I think I always tried to vote for someone who was "good" for the people, who cared, who was honest... I really liked Carter as President and his entire life after--a life of giving, of integrity who was made fun of, who was cheated by Reagan around the hostage crisis. If anyone wants to see a quite wonderful movie at Crandall, they are showing a film on Carter and the bluegrass and country singers who loved him......
And yet the traditional media consistently ignores smaller party candidates who are sometimes better than the major party candidates. Not just in their endorsements but in their journalism.
My father as a small businessman detested FDR and the New Deal while my mother loved Truman, Stevenson, JFK, LBJ, Humphrey and Carter. I met and found myself aligned with JFK's vision when he visited our college campus in 1959 and have voted for the more liberal-progressive Democratic Party ever since! But with respects to sports I have found myself culturally addicted to Ohio State football ever since! Did observe as a high school teacher that more often than not, my students tended to view the world of politics through a lens similar to their parents--sometimes rabidly so! And the response to my posted Harris/Walz sign in my yard from one neighbor was: "I'd never vote for any G-D donkey Democrat!" Wonder where that came from?
then why do you support republicans who lie and have policies that work against the common person (I get it you millionaires aren't thinking about that)
Now that I think about it.. perhaps you see that your dishonest falls in line with the dishonesty of the politicians you support.
republican speak
defaming = republican speak: "hey you are telling the truth about me"
Warren County and much of the North Country are perfect examples of the party loyalty or die platform. Many good people endorse and tolerate Stefanik out of party loyalty because they are afraid of the consequences.
And the voters need to vote out those who demonstrate poor judgment.
We saw this is Queensbury in 2017 when Republican councilman Tony Metivier voted against changing the town's legal representation to someone on the GOP committee. The next year, and several years after that, Metivier was not endorse by Warren County Republican Committee. For doing what he thought was right.
Though he has returned to the party hack fold, it seems.
It appears that way.
If you do so out of fear of negative consequences, that might not be a particularly courageous decision but it's certainly logical.
"I realize that multitudes and multitudes of people for various reasons of their own enslave themselves every hour of every day to this or that doctrine, this or that delusion of safety, this or that lie. Anti-Semites, for example are slaves to a delusion. People who hate Negroes are slaves. People who love money are slaves. We are living in a universe really of willing slaves, which makes the concept of liberty and the concept of freedom so dangerous.” - James Baldwin
We have witnessed the rise and fall of America’s Mayor. Rudolf Giuliani moral compass has been on a steep decline for many years but jumping on the Trump train was the most egregious one. That decision has led to not only his historical demise but also his financial ruin and.
Ken wrote: "Two weeks from now, I will vote for the candidates best qualified to do the job."
Over the years, I've hired many new employees after conducting interviews with the final few candidates. I've also hired a few interns with no interviews after seeing them on the job. I've found there's no substitute for actual job performance as the determining factor in whom to hire.
I think it's precisely the same when we hire a candidate for elective office. We make the best choices when we view the candidates' actual job performance. Sure, debates can serve as a kind of job interview. But debates, especially in today's debate formats, are not always a determinative factor.
This year, we have two candidates for president who have served in high-level elective office of national significance, one as president, the other as senator and vice-president. We had the opportunity to view their job performance over a number of years.
Based on job performance alone, the choice is a stark one. Ethical performance over corrupt performance. Competence over incompetence. Service over selfishness, Dignity over dishonor.
This is the easiest hire we've ever had to make in our lives. And the most important by far.
are you suggesting that you could hire someone off the street, no interview and they would have just as good a chance of being a good employee as one you interviewed?
When my husband worked at a managerial position for an expanding locally owned company and was invited to join a civic “service” organization he was advised to join the Republican Party. I found that disconcerting then and still do as I know that pressure still exists.
I agree, but I have seen people who want to make change in small towns become 'liberal republicans' even though most places he would be a Democrat.
The reason? s/he would never be elected - otherwise.
Exactly.
I agree.
Can you imagine any business putting support signs for any politician on their business 30 years ago.
Of course back then you wanted everyone to shop at your business.
Good one, Ken!!
I continue to be dismayed by the way the Republican candidates in NY are hiding out and not having Town Halls or debates with their opponents. And then I listen to WRVT from Vermont and I hear candidates sitting down with Mikaela Lefrak and having a conversation about issues. Nationally this may be the way the Republican candidates have been told to run their elections.
https://www.vermontpublic.org/election-2024
because... of the republican dictionary
Objective reporting = is 'fake news' in the gQp dictionary
Policy = in the gQp dictionary, you don't have that word, you just find: "see hate and lies"
Fact Check = alternate facts
Plus (after going to your link). With gerrymandering and incumbent power (more likely to win), why would they.
Gerald Malloy is debating Bernie Sanders because his only chance of winning.. probably even being seen is in the debate... if he was the incumbent, would not happen
When I, my husband and 2 children moved to Queensbury 36 years ago, a friend told me I should be a registered Republican if I wanted to get anything (favors??) done. I balked and remained a registered Democrat. Let me be clear: I have voted for a republican here and there, because I thought they were the better candidate. That experience 36 years ago was my first realization that this was going to be a politically difficult area for me to reside in. Thank goodness my town has had the benefit of good Democrat officials and my faith has been rewarded over the years. How sad that people cannot look beyond the party and look at the person.
The reality in upstate is that if you want to win an election, it is far either to do if you do it on the Republican ticket. I think if you look closely, you see lots of moderates elected at Republicans, but they would never admit that.
and, in fact, RINO
maybe 'republicans' would be Democrat any where else.
AND, most local officials (but dan stec) do preach hate and fear
President Obama (2017) “Those who watch Fox News and those who read The New York Times occupy completely different realities,” he said.
He pointed specifically to Fox News, saying that the network portrays him “in weird ways.”
“If I watch Fox News, I wouldn’t vote for me,” he said. “I would watch it and say who is that guy? This character Barack was portrayed in weird ways. It is all edited and shaped. … The point is, you get multiple realities.” or as Kellyanne Conway phrased it in 2017, "alternative facts".
Sadly, this is the world we live in.
Time to think outside party loyalty and examine each candidate's strengths and weaknesses.
As a former long-time republican, it is increasingly more difficult to find republican candidates who are moderate, who believe in science and working with both sides of the aisle to get things done for the people and who do not spew Trump lies as truths.
If you watch fox news enough.. you would think, boy those black people were LUCKY to be slaves.
I guess this is problem why you don't understand most things.
An entertainment source that proves nothing but dishonesty and lies, is still lying and dishonest, regardless if it is popular..
(https://www.reuters.com/legal/dominions-defamation-case-against-fox-poised-trial-after-delay-2023-04-18/)
Part of the popularity is the fact that much of the gQp has been dumbed down to the level where even the most egregious lies, will be believed.
It is a vicious circle. they hear lies and will beleve the lies that are added onto, and it because "on fox they said..." is their source, and not knowing it wasn't even the news portion of the channel.
And to line up the ignorance on your part, some how you thank that link disproves what I wrote. Just as you also think it is a proper response to what Chriss wrote.
Now you can go back to your bubble and be the whiner you like to project over there and go on with your persecution complex and double down on your hate, thinking you can be a racist, because racism is popular
not everything you can't understand is stupid
but I get why you don't understand much and the world holds you at its mercy with facts...
keep dumbing it down staying clueless
#WILLINGignorance
Really fascinating....I wonder if you had more discussions with your mother than your father about anything to do with politics although maybe the war was another issue with your dad's rather conclusive opinion about what "YOU" would be doing when you became of age. You were "thinking" nice and early and I wonder how your mother, perhaps unknowingly, managed to encourage that. Parents have the power over what their children think and come to believe. We all have to start somewhere but our thinking is under parental control for a good chunk of time.
My mother grew up in northern Ireland and loved everything about the Kennedys and later the Clintons, but it all seemed to be personality driven. I don't ever remember have a substantive conversation with mom about political issue, nor my dad for that matter.
But I am guessing....
My parents didn't talk politics much, my mother none. But I am pretty sure they were informed and knew want the issues were. They voted.
We had the city's paper delivered every day.
AND my parents read it.
I am guessing, but I don't know, that your parents were informed.
We got the local newspaper every day. My dad worked nights in the factory so I never saw him watch the evening news. I seem to recall watching Walter Cronkite by myself as a kid, so maybe not.
Read a biography on Mr. Cronkite.. interesting guy
It someone made me think about where there were lots of newspapers, ony three news networks.
And if the republicans were to assess those days they would say the media was bias
which is gQp speak for: "they reported facts"
I don't know if they would. I mean they turned on Nixon and Johnson got driven from office by the great reporting on Vietnam. All the politicians took their lumps.
two 'They' s
the 2024 'they' would not turn on Nixon... evidence the that fact hmpy trymp has not only done worse and many times over, he has been convicted of it!
and the 1975 'they' would not have let hmpy trmpy last a year
Imagine in 1976, you got in a time machine and witnessed 2024...
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This reminds me of the defense of racism in the gQp. Somehow when they do something clear-cut racist, their defense is: Lincoln freed the slaves.
(For get that many of Honest Abe's views were racist). The 1961 republicans are now Democrats. and if
Nathan Bedford Forrest and others were alive today, they would be a prominent republican.
1) Janet Duprey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Duprey): a republican. I researched her... I contacted her because I didn’t like her position on the bed tax
(I don’t like add-on fee and I don’t like taxing visitors just because we can and they don’t get a vote.. Now that I spend two months a year traveling.. I don’t like that I am subjected to them.)
She voted for them. I emailed Honorable Duprey. SHE RESPONDED and while she was office other times. I voted for her everything I could.. I might have voted for her over Billy Jones.
She was a representative.
I am not sure if I believe that about many other politicians. Billy Jones comes close, but when I want to give him my input: I speak to his staff. But they listen
2) pos_tfnKKK I have contacted her staff several times. They don’t listen, they don’t care..
3) if pos_tfnKKK or her staff cared (spoiler- - > they don’t) about me or the district, they would stop lying.
d) Jimmy Carter was also the first president I voted for (I too have voted republican, Demorat, green, working party, write-ins and independents).
I would say, Duprey and Carter (as time has passed) not only are the most moral, and perhaps most often correct in policies, persons I have voted for in my lifetime.
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I believe most Demorats vote Demorats because they see (for the most part) their policies are for people (Why Tim Walz is a bad guy to republicans because he made sure poor children were fed in school... I don’t have a clue).
• search voter fraud, it doesn’t happen much, but almost always when it happens it is done by a republican. Same with politicians suppressing the vote.
• search ‘politician sex scandals’ or ‘politician pedophiles’ and it is overwhelmingly republicans. They also hold the lead in committing the most crimes. Hell, one guy has the lead in corruption and crimes of any president. In fact, more crimes and corruption than all others combined.
• I don’t know if I know of any Demcorat that votes to show their hate (and the gQp = “I want to own the libs”).
Most of our problems will never end until campaign reform is enacted. This includes stopping gerrymandering and campaign contributions. Of course, if you have campaign reform, there would be no republican party. When you rule by hate, likes, suppression and deception (as most all republicans do), you can only win if you cheat.
My grandmother on my mother’s side was widowed at a young age and the family survived because FDR was president. There are good reasons why he has been elevated to sainthood among Democrats.
The reason many Republicans view the guy who promised every two weeks that Covid was going away and suggested injecting bleach along with quack cures for it is viewed as the messiah is beyond me.
I can't say it enough...
nor can I understand it any less...
why do republicans think it is bad to help people?
Thank you, Ken, interesting to read of your family's history with political parties. I know that in our area almost all people--nurses, doctors, lawyers, business people---had to register as a Republican to have a job. I know that growing up in the Bronx, our apartment building was like a little shtetl, almost all Jews who were immigrants, my father and immigrant from a little town Piaterer, near Kiev. ( Not one of the shtetls survived after WW2 and the Nazis.) They all voted Democratic; it seemed like all poor, working class, but even educated Jews always felt that Republicans had a antisemitic and racist core and were for the wealthy The first election I remember was when Eisenhower defeated Stevenson, my whole family in mourning, my father saying "people like the military." But Eisenhower on many issues was good, seeing the danger of the military industrial complex...but bad in terms of his treatment of Mexicans ("wetack" policy). I think I always tried to vote for someone who was "good" for the people, who cared, who was honest... I really liked Carter as President and his entire life after--a life of giving, of integrity who was made fun of, who was cheated by Reagan around the hostage crisis. If anyone wants to see a quite wonderful movie at Crandall, they are showing a film on Carter and the bluegrass and country singers who loved him......
And yet the traditional media consistently ignores smaller party candidates who are sometimes better than the major party candidates. Not just in their endorsements but in their journalism.
We found over the years when interviewing third-party candidates that it was a mixed bag. Some good ones, some of the worst ones too.
couldn't you say that about all candidates?
My father as a small businessman detested FDR and the New Deal while my mother loved Truman, Stevenson, JFK, LBJ, Humphrey and Carter. I met and found myself aligned with JFK's vision when he visited our college campus in 1959 and have voted for the more liberal-progressive Democratic Party ever since! But with respects to sports I have found myself culturally addicted to Ohio State football ever since! Did observe as a high school teacher that more often than not, my students tended to view the world of politics through a lens similar to their parents--sometimes rabidly so! And the response to my posted Harris/Walz sign in my yard from one neighbor was: "I'd never vote for any G-D donkey Democrat!" Wonder where that came from?