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Carol L. Clark's avatar

I grew up in Cincinnati and am still a fan. Long-suffering at this point. Why not put it down to Charlie Hustle's betting on a Reds game (or more) while he managed the team? That bad deal the Red Sox made with the Yankees was for decades blamed as the cause of the long Red Sox post season drought.

I can't agree with you on Rose's final baseball resting place in the Hall of Fame. He cheated. You say he still lied to his last days if it served his purpose. Oddly enough, we currently have a presidential campaign in which one of the candidates lies as often as he breathes.

No, he cheated and the players who made hay by taking steroids cheated. Should he be recognized for getting everything out of his talent all he could? You bet. His stats were and remain enormous. His ambition was to be the highest paid singles hitter. Okay. He got paid so very well for his on the field exploits.

But there are some people who are very talented, like Rose, and you love the work they do. But as human beings? They're miserable. I love listening to Sinatra. That man had a terrific voice and knew exactly how to phrase the lyrics and I've always watched him. But like Rose, a nasty piece of work in real life. So, you recognize the gift as displayed, you praise it, and you are relieved when you know that they were pretty mean human beings and you're grateful you were never in their crosshairs.

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David Nathan's avatar

Just finished a lousy sports book titled “win at all costs” about Nike. Wasn’t that also the story of Charlie Hustle (Charlie Hustler?)? A great player but abusive on and off the field. Even in his dotage weird: during his autograph sessions, offering to add - for an extra fee - an apology for gambling.

Recently Making sexual taunts to the wife of a nationally known sports announcer. Just too much.

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