<b>The actual post Trump legacy is not palatable to many of us. It is fraught with an out-of-control southern border, a dependance foreign energy, debt that is reaching existential threat, the continued export of industrial capacity and jobs, a foreign policy that continues to escalate the flow of our treasure to places that have little strategic value, and trade partnerships that hinder our middle class.</b>
I’m going to try to respectfully ask what does “post Trump legacy” mean and say that I think a lot of that complaint is so much boilerplate.
<b>President Joe Biden on Thursday signed an executive order aimed at kick-starting the implementation process of the sweeping $280 billion law to boost US domestic chip-making and scientific research, according to a copy of the order obtained by CNN.</b>
You can maybe say that a chips bill is going to be ineffectual, but there’s no way to know that. The Biden administration is absolutely making the effort to bring chips manufacturing back to the US which is a benefit to us economically and to our national security.
I’ll just point to a small example of the economic policies of Donald Trump in his levying of tariffs on Chinese goods which led to billions of dollars paid to midwestern farmers to make up for lost profits when the Chinese stopped buying from them. This from the party of the free market.
I’ll also point out that Elise Stefanik has not put him in the rear view mirror.
"I am proud to endorse Donald Trump for president in 2024.”
That was immediately following the midterms and he is an announced candidate for 2024.
As long as he doesn’t concede and the Republican Party as a whole can’t come out and say that he lost, he’s not going anywhere. Stefanik refuses to say he lost. Her only statement on the 2020 election was to congratulate Biden and Harris on being “sworn in.” I remember when Republicans were all upset with Bill Clinton for weasel wording like that.
I’m not sure that the GOP strategy of wishing Trump away by means of the Biden DOJ or his shuffling off this mortal coil is really going to work out. The infection of Trumpism has set in. The gentle congresswoman from Georgia seems like she’s going to have an undue influence over whoever the next Speaker is. There’s no putting that in the rear view mirror. And Elise Stefanik who is nominally in leadership doesn’t seem like she’s going to be willing to stand up to Trumpism. Matt Castelli would have.
Ken, you're being naive. Look at the election results, Castelli v. Stefanik............she talks this way because she can and the voters love her. Our district loves Stefanik period.
not true... you might love her, but I have yet to see one person who lives in the district who supposedly 'loves' her and can demonstrate with facts (sources) of what stiffy has done for her district.
Not sure if that is ignorance... or willingness to accept lies of eLIEs because one thinks it is better to have evil on their side
"you might love her", not true. It's obvious that the 21st CD does, however, like her a lot despite whatever comes out of her mouth or how she votes. The district became redder with redistricting. Warren Co. totals are as follows: 14,888 Stefanik, Castelli 13,221 a difference of 1,667. Not terrible.
Washington County totals are as follows: 13,472 Stefanik, 8,570 Castelli. Pretty bad.
Castelli was a great candidate, ran a great race. Like her or not the 21CD voters spoke in Stefanik's favor. I may not like the results of the election, but I respect democracy and the will of the people.
and if you quizzed the 13,472 and asked them to demonstrate what stiffy has done that is so good.. they have sound bites but not facts
They might say: Second Amendment, but if you then asked them if they were okay that she is okay with the mentally ill having guns.. they would be surprised or deny it, but there it is in her voting record
Might you , perhaps, want to amend that to say "and the will of the people, except when they cross the line to violence, insurrection and tyranny". In such a situation, I would want to fight for the Constitution and the rule of law. We are not a third world country striving to find our footing in the world. We have global responsibilities. Haven't you noticed? International stability depends on our economic and political stability. Whether you or I like it or not, we have succeeded well enough for the past 100 or so years to have become a role model for the world. If we lose our bearings the entire world of wealth and progress can come crashing down. Sort of like Russia destroying Ukraine, just because they can. If you think the world has problems now, just wait. If we don't get our house in order chaos will take charge. This is not a game of scrabble.
I agree, I think the Congresswoman lacks character. She is pandering to the worst part of her base for personal political gain. Which would be bad enough in any circumstances, but in one where many believe our democracy is at stake, there are no words .. I am confident, however, after the heat of the present moment, history will write her off as being on the wrong side, if anyone remembers her at all. My husband and I did not vote for her this past election; I won't ever vote for anyone ever who was implicated in January 6 or who obstructed efforts to bring them to justice
Miss Harvard is not stupid . She has hitched he wagon to Trump train for one reason only. Sedition Stefanik’s obsession with self interest is very apparent. She will do or say anything that will achieve her goal.
Unfortunately Ken, we can't fix stupid, and Stefanik is proving on a daily basis just how stupid she really is. I honestly believe that when trump fails, and I really believe he will fail, he is going to drop her like a bad habit, and THAT is when it will hit her like a ton of bricks! Truth will be her downfall, and she will THEN understand what an absolute FOOL she has been!
If Trump is successfully prosecuted I look forward to the nominee for president in 2024 answering, or trying to dodge, the question of whether they’ll pardon him. That seems like a real no-win situation.
In addition to all of your salient points about Stefanik, the fact that she thinks Nancy Pelosi was "fired" speaks to her ignorance. House Speakers are not "hired," any more than Representatives. They should, however, work for US, which Stefanik does not. I consider her "self employed."
If Kevin McCarthy even manages to make enough concessions to the crazies it’s only a matter of time before they fire him.
Nancy Pelosi is a former Speaker who will still serve in the House. John Boehner is, I’m sure, going to be kicking back with a Camel and a merlot and enjoying the show. Paul Ryan is working for Fox Propaganda. And the less said about Dennis Hastert the better.
She might not know it, but she is not a leader, she is a manipulator. it wasn't so long ago she was taking smack about mccarthy.. now she stands next to him...
Trump isn’t the only one that did nothing on January 6th. There were at least 3 Fox Newsers that contacted Meadows to get him to urge Trump to put an end to the attack. Many of Stefanik’s colleagues did as well. She and her little weasel quite proudly said that she had no contact with Meadows that day.
To me, that shouldn’t be a point of pride. Why didn’t she try to stop the attack? It’s not like she was a nobody. She made her bones in Trumpworld after defending him in the first impeachment. I’m really interested in an answer to that. That, and how she walks back that endorsement on the heels of the midterms.
Thank you Ken for such a succinct evaluation of Elise Stefanik> Has anyone heard a peep out of Matt Castelli? This is the perfect time for him to be out there talking about issues to create the necessary contrast to Elise. Thank you.
I’m hoping Matt sticks around the area. He seems like good people. Last I knew, admittedly awhile ago, Aaron Woolf stuck around E’town and had opened a bar. And, of course, Tedra Cobb was local to our district to begin with.
<b>Stefanik blew up her reputation as a moderate to ride Trump’s coattails to power and now appears to think she has little choice but to back him to try to keep him from taking everyone down with him.</b>
I’d been trying to come up with a reason for her endorsement so quick on the heels of the Pink Mist. I suppose that’s as good as any even if there’s no chance of it working.
If Trump isn’t the GOP candidate in 2024 or somehow protected he’s going to take the Samson option on their party. It’s a cinch he has dirt on lots of Republicans. That’s how he operated in NY with David Pecker at National Enquirer. He’ll find a way to destroy the GOP. They should’ve dealt with him while they still could.
She has been very calculating in moving from respected first term moderate to over the top, win at all costs MAGA supporter. Very sad to see the silence of area Republican officials and business leaders. Not any different from the R’s support of Trump.
The key is that Stefanik thrives on the politics of division. That divisiveness existed here long before Stefanik arrived but she has really fine tuned it and taught the locals a few new tricks. Today Stec and Simpson rail against a pay increase for state legislators, meanwhile Warren County GOP just proposed and voted themselves both a pay raise AND a tax increase. Stec and Simpson were silent on that. I remember people telling me “you need to be a Republican around here.” Is that not intensely divisive? That is the cesspool of good faith local Republicans have cultivated and Stefanik has flowered in it. Meanwhile every single local and county tax increase in living memory was passed because Republicans proposed it or voted for it, but most likely both. I would love for someone to find an exception to that contention.
Dec 21, 2022·edited Dec 21, 2022Liked by Ken Tingley
“you need to be a Republican around here.”
My parents raised me to be a Democrat and a Methodist and I see no reason to change either one.
Oh, and it did occur to me reading your comment that those of us who don’t support (or are frankly appalled at) having Elise Stefanik represent us can at least spell her name correctly.
It is easy to point out the evil and corrupt nature of stefanik, but this is a top-down
the gop is always on top of winning, but not though policy or helping and problem-solving.
I like to go to ray scollin's twitter page and enjoy how he has the two sides of his mouth working at 90 mph. He will hint at the evil of stiffy in one tweet, but push the same conspiracies she does in the next
///all you have to do is look at their messaging on Hunter Biden, never with facts, never with any sourcing on what he did wrong.. (at best what he did 'wrong' is what the gop lives by. If they are worried about nepotism, all they have to do is spend four years of investigating the trump whitehouse) No their plan is not policy.. but red meat conspiracy lies\\\
Pointing out that the gop is operating like the 1930's and early 1940's nazis is overused, but there is a clear connection to their behavior.
The gop construction of lies is just as diabolical
This whole thing with Hunter Biden is kind of like kicking the neighbor's dog when it has been hit by a car. Kicking at the being with the lowest defense mechanisms. Hunter has messed up with his life, true enough, but his father still loves him. Kind of like the Prodigal Son whose Father still loved him. Yet, the Republicans, unlike the God they say they worship, fail massively in the areas of compassion and forgiveness. They are hateful and vengeful. They prey upon the weak and ignorant. This is a sad epitaph to our Constitutional aspirations.
You are absolutely correct on every point Ken. I wish more of the voters in NY21 would pay more attention to what her actions/inactions really mean, how they undermine what is best for the district, and that character and ethics matter. Keep up the fight. Congratulations on your books, enjoyed reading both of them.
<b>The actual post Trump legacy is not palatable to many of us. It is fraught with an out-of-control southern border, a dependance foreign energy, debt that is reaching existential threat, the continued export of industrial capacity and jobs, a foreign policy that continues to escalate the flow of our treasure to places that have little strategic value, and trade partnerships that hinder our middle class.</b>
I’m going to try to respectfully ask what does “post Trump legacy” mean and say that I think a lot of that complaint is so much boilerplate.
<b>President Joe Biden on Thursday signed an executive order aimed at kick-starting the implementation process of the sweeping $280 billion law to boost US domestic chip-making and scientific research, according to a copy of the order obtained by CNN.</b>
You can maybe say that a chips bill is going to be ineffectual, but there’s no way to know that. The Biden administration is absolutely making the effort to bring chips manufacturing back to the US which is a benefit to us economically and to our national security.
I’ll just point to a small example of the economic policies of Donald Trump in his levying of tariffs on Chinese goods which led to billions of dollars paid to midwestern farmers to make up for lost profits when the Chinese stopped buying from them. This from the party of the free market.
And were the Chinese the ones paying the cost of those tariffs like Trump constantly said or was it the American consumer?
“The consumer paid of course.”
Thanks for the verification. Maybe you can explain that to Trump. It was pretty annoying when he constantly said it was being paid by China.
I’ll also point out that Elise Stefanik has not put him in the rear view mirror.
"I am proud to endorse Donald Trump for president in 2024.”
That was immediately following the midterms and he is an announced candidate for 2024.
As long as he doesn’t concede and the Republican Party as a whole can’t come out and say that he lost, he’s not going anywhere. Stefanik refuses to say he lost. Her only statement on the 2020 election was to congratulate Biden and Harris on being “sworn in.” I remember when Republicans were all upset with Bill Clinton for weasel wording like that.
I’m not sure that the GOP strategy of wishing Trump away by means of the Biden DOJ or his shuffling off this mortal coil is really going to work out. The infection of Trumpism has set in. The gentle congresswoman from Georgia seems like she’s going to have an undue influence over whoever the next Speaker is. There’s no putting that in the rear view mirror. And Elise Stefanik who is nominally in leadership doesn’t seem like she’s going to be willing to stand up to Trumpism. Matt Castelli would have.
Yes, what about Global Foundry? That’s obviously exactly the same as the CHIPS Act.
Ken, you're being naive. Look at the election results, Castelli v. Stefanik............she talks this way because she can and the voters love her. Our district loves Stefanik period.
True but it also says a lot about her voters and what kind of people they are.
not true... you might love her, but I have yet to see one person who lives in the district who supposedly 'loves' her and can demonstrate with facts (sources) of what stiffy has done for her district.
Not sure if that is ignorance... or willingness to accept lies of eLIEs because one thinks it is better to have evil on their side
"you might love her", not true. It's obvious that the 21st CD does, however, like her a lot despite whatever comes out of her mouth or how she votes. The district became redder with redistricting. Warren Co. totals are as follows: 14,888 Stefanik, Castelli 13,221 a difference of 1,667. Not terrible.
Washington County totals are as follows: 13,472 Stefanik, 8,570 Castelli. Pretty bad.
Castelli was a great candidate, ran a great race. Like her or not the 21CD voters spoke in Stefanik's favor. I may not like the results of the election, but I respect democracy and the will of the people.
and if you quizzed the 13,472 and asked them to demonstrate what stiffy has done that is so good.. they have sound bites but not facts
They might say: Second Amendment, but if you then asked them if they were okay that she is okay with the mentally ill having guns.. they would be surprised or deny it, but there it is in her voting record
Might you , perhaps, want to amend that to say "and the will of the people, except when they cross the line to violence, insurrection and tyranny". In such a situation, I would want to fight for the Constitution and the rule of law. We are not a third world country striving to find our footing in the world. We have global responsibilities. Haven't you noticed? International stability depends on our economic and political stability. Whether you or I like it or not, we have succeeded well enough for the past 100 or so years to have become a role model for the world. If we lose our bearings the entire world of wealth and progress can come crashing down. Sort of like Russia destroying Ukraine, just because they can. If you think the world has problems now, just wait. If we don't get our house in order chaos will take charge. This is not a game of scrabble.
Many do, it I believe that ca change.
I agree, I think the Congresswoman lacks character. She is pandering to the worst part of her base for personal political gain. Which would be bad enough in any circumstances, but in one where many believe our democracy is at stake, there are no words .. I am confident, however, after the heat of the present moment, history will write her off as being on the wrong side, if anyone remembers her at all. My husband and I did not vote for her this past election; I won't ever vote for anyone ever who was implicated in January 6 or who obstructed efforts to bring them to justice
Miss Harvard is not stupid . She has hitched he wagon to Trump train for one reason only. Sedition Stefanik’s obsession with self interest is very apparent. She will do or say anything that will achieve her goal.
Unfortunately Ken, we can't fix stupid, and Stefanik is proving on a daily basis just how stupid she really is. I honestly believe that when trump fails, and I really believe he will fail, he is going to drop her like a bad habit, and THAT is when it will hit her like a ton of bricks! Truth will be her downfall, and she will THEN understand what an absolute FOOL she has been!
She will move on to DeSantis her best chance to a VP. Nod.
Doesn't mean he'll accept her. He seems to want to distance himself from anything trump.
He may want to.
If Trump is successfully prosecuted I look forward to the nominee for president in 2024 answering, or trying to dodge, the question of whether they’ll pardon him. That seems like a real no-win situation.
In addition to all of your salient points about Stefanik, the fact that she thinks Nancy Pelosi was "fired" speaks to her ignorance. House Speakers are not "hired," any more than Representatives. They should, however, work for US, which Stefanik does not. I consider her "self employed."
If Kevin McCarthy even manages to make enough concessions to the crazies it’s only a matter of time before they fire him.
Nancy Pelosi is a former Speaker who will still serve in the House. John Boehner is, I’m sure, going to be kicking back with a Camel and a merlot and enjoying the show. Paul Ryan is working for Fox Propaganda. And the less said about Dennis Hastert the better.
this is another example of the cunning of stiffy.
She might not know it, but she is not a leader, she is a manipulator. it wasn't so long ago she was taking smack about mccarthy.. now she stands next to him...
stiffy is nothing but a political dung beetle
Her comments sound like someone running for student council.
When it comes to evil
stiffy is a genius.
----
if only she worked as hard and in congress for #ny21 as she does at
issuing statements
writing letters
carefully worded speeches (complete with coded language)
She would be the best representative in the country -- but she is not
She is just a liar and evil.
Trump isn’t the only one that did nothing on January 6th. There were at least 3 Fox Newsers that contacted Meadows to get him to urge Trump to put an end to the attack. Many of Stefanik’s colleagues did as well. She and her little weasel quite proudly said that she had no contact with Meadows that day.
To me, that shouldn’t be a point of pride. Why didn’t she try to stop the attack? It’s not like she was a nobody. She made her bones in Trumpworld after defending him in the first impeachment. I’m really interested in an answer to that. That, and how she walks back that endorsement on the heels of the midterms.
Thank you Ken for such a succinct evaluation of Elise Stefanik> Has anyone heard a peep out of Matt Castelli? This is the perfect time for him to be out there talking about issues to create the necessary contrast to Elise. Thank you.
I’m hoping Matt sticks around the area. He seems like good people. Last I knew, admittedly awhile ago, Aaron Woolf stuck around E’town and had opened a bar. And, of course, Tedra Cobb was local to our district to begin with.
Elise never disappoints us!
Surely she will attain the same degree of infamy as her hero, the biggest liar and the biggest loser.
Comment on Stefanik by Heather Cox Richardson
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/december-20-2022
Thanks for sharing Richardson's column. Always a good read.
<b>Stefanik blew up her reputation as a moderate to ride Trump’s coattails to power and now appears to think she has little choice but to back him to try to keep him from taking everyone down with him.</b>
I’d been trying to come up with a reason for her endorsement so quick on the heels of the Pink Mist. I suppose that’s as good as any even if there’s no chance of it working.
If Trump isn’t the GOP candidate in 2024 or somehow protected he’s going to take the Samson option on their party. It’s a cinch he has dirt on lots of Republicans. That’s how he operated in NY with David Pecker at National Enquirer. He’ll find a way to destroy the GOP. They should’ve dealt with him while they still could.
She has been very calculating in moving from respected first term moderate to over the top, win at all costs MAGA supporter. Very sad to see the silence of area Republican officials and business leaders. Not any different from the R’s support of Trump.
The key is that Stefanik thrives on the politics of division. That divisiveness existed here long before Stefanik arrived but she has really fine tuned it and taught the locals a few new tricks. Today Stec and Simpson rail against a pay increase for state legislators, meanwhile Warren County GOP just proposed and voted themselves both a pay raise AND a tax increase. Stec and Simpson were silent on that. I remember people telling me “you need to be a Republican around here.” Is that not intensely divisive? That is the cesspool of good faith local Republicans have cultivated and Stefanik has flowered in it. Meanwhile every single local and county tax increase in living memory was passed because Republicans proposed it or voted for it, but most likely both. I would love for someone to find an exception to that contention.
“you need to be a Republican around here.”
My parents raised me to be a Democrat and a Methodist and I see no reason to change either one.
Oh, and it did occur to me reading your comment that those of us who don’t support (or are frankly appalled at) having Elise Stefanik represent us can at least spell her name correctly.
It is easy to point out the evil and corrupt nature of stefanik, but this is a top-down
the gop is always on top of winning, but not though policy or helping and problem-solving.
I like to go to ray scollin's twitter page and enjoy how he has the two sides of his mouth working at 90 mph. He will hint at the evil of stiffy in one tweet, but push the same conspiracies she does in the next
///all you have to do is look at their messaging on Hunter Biden, never with facts, never with any sourcing on what he did wrong.. (at best what he did 'wrong' is what the gop lives by. If they are worried about nepotism, all they have to do is spend four years of investigating the trump whitehouse) No their plan is not policy.. but red meat conspiracy lies\\\
Pointing out that the gop is operating like the 1930's and early 1940's nazis is overused, but there is a clear connection to their behavior.
The gop construction of lies is just as diabolical
This whole thing with Hunter Biden is kind of like kicking the neighbor's dog when it has been hit by a car. Kicking at the being with the lowest defense mechanisms. Hunter has messed up with his life, true enough, but his father still loves him. Kind of like the Prodigal Son whose Father still loved him. Yet, the Republicans, unlike the God they say they worship, fail massively in the areas of compassion and forgiveness. They are hateful and vengeful. They prey upon the weak and ignorant. This is a sad epitaph to our Constitutional aspirations.
You are absolutely correct on every point Ken. I wish more of the voters in NY21 would pay more attention to what her actions/inactions really mean, how they undermine what is best for the district, and that character and ethics matter. Keep up the fight. Congratulations on your books, enjoyed reading both of them.
Nicely said!