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So, Carl, now that your original "solution" as to where to place recovering nursing home residents when released from hospitals was shown to be unrealistic, you're on to other fanciful "solutions."

Okay, just who would care for nursing home residents while they've been bundled off to dorms and hotels? Health care staffing was already stretched thin. Where would you propose qualified health care providers come from?

The fact is, the only realistic place where nursing home residents recovering from Covid could have been placed in back in the home facilities where they previously resided — facilities that were designed to provide the care they needed.

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No, I can live with horrific.

Trump promises to roll back freedoms - especially of the press - and weaponize the justic department and this time around there will be no one to stop him.

That's a horrific scenario.

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Totally agree-horrific is an understatement.

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Edward Low's avatar

that is not true

you could have be around covid patients AND were lucky because you were careful

This is no different than saying a nurse was not accidentally stuck with a needle and say that means they will never be stuck....

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Edward Low's avatar

I don't look

if you don't have a source that is on you, not me.

Add to this my needle prick example still holds

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Edward Low's avatar

let me add

myself as an example.

I worked in an environment where almost all the people got CoVid.

Now you could say I had natural immunity... BUT we had strict protocols. There are two facts that I would suggest why I didn't get it.

1) all those who got covid, clearly got it from outside of the work environment.

2) outside of the work environment. I stayed clear of people and wore a mask

2b) and once the restrictions were dropped, I continued to wear a mask and keep my distance... and I continued to stay clear of people

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Also, and I admit this up front --- I am not an immunologist.. and I will assume the same is true for you.

When ti comes to natural immunity, it doesn't not mean you won't get it, it means it won't kill you.

We are talking Darwinism here and natural selection, where those who can deal with an adverse situation. Which could be a germ or it could be the ability to get an ant to eat out of tree bark..

in one generation the ability to get an ant out of tree bark doesn't mean everyone but the animal with the amorality dies, just means the one with that ability are more likely to survive. Same with the germ or virus

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Edward Low's avatar

nice slant

people died once Biden was elected, we were still suffering for the mistakes hmpy trmpy made..

As this column points out there are a few people who don't remember (giving you the benefit of the doubt) or are just plain lying to themselves or evil

https://www.businessinsider.com/analysis-trump-covid-19-response-40-percent-us-deaths-avoidable-2021-2

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trumps-policy-failures-have-exacted-a-heavy-toll-on-public-health1/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/02/11/report-trump-associated-with-461000-deaths-in-2018-others-deserve-blame-though/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy

without dictator hmpy there is no maga

and even pos_tfnKKK might grow her spine back

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Edward Low's avatar

I remind everyone to look deeper

Especially when the gQp slappy states things, without facts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_pSB_hnPP0

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Edward Low's avatar

One needs to understand you really can't speak out of both sides of your month, no matter how republikkkan you are.

you can't say things that aren't true then hope them into reality.. even if you are a gQp conspiracy guy

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/trumps-flawed-china-travel-conspiracy/

one should not be surprised at this

if you go to 'carl tucker ' i.e. tucker carlson slappy =https://carltucker.substack.com/

you will see pages of this drivel, not of which has any facts, sources or morality. there is a reason why the maga terrorists (jihadist) never have links.

one thing is true, hmpy trmpy is racist, but not because of his lies, but because of his actions

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/11/05/trump-didnt-invent-racism-racism-invented-trump-and-other-elected-hopefuls/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2019/08/14/trump-and-racism-what-do-the-data-say/

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-white-victimhood-fuels-republican-politics/

https://theconversation.com/trump-has-put-down-his-racist-dog-whistle-and-picked-up-a-bull-horn-176523

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Anyone who uses a known liar (hmpy trmpy) states to be their source

Has become a liar themselves

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But that’s not what Trump said, either. Trump said China continued to allow flights from Wuhan to destinations around the world — including the U.S. — at the same time that it banned travel from Wuhan into other parts of China. That’s incorrect.

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https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/trumps-flawed-china-travel-conspiracy/

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there is a reason the 'carlson tucker slappy' blocked me from posting facts under his fiction

If no one points out your lies, maybe a fool or two will believe you

https://carltucker.substack.com/ = drivel

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Ken Tingley's avatar

Covid was and is dangerous, especially for the unvaccinated. The point was that Trump in those first few months denied its existence and did little to prevent its spread. I suspect that cost many people their lives.

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Carl - Let me ask this question. The point of this essay was to show the cumulative reality of Trump's actions. You can pick apart one point or another, but seriously, does the cumulative affect of all these actions have any affect on you? Do you think it is just political. These things happened. He did all these things. Does have any affect on you at all?

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Tanya Goldstein's avatar

Amazing to me how we can look at the same situation and see it so differently.

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Ken Tingley's avatar

I'm bewildered that you don't see him as a threat when he says he will continue to break the law and wage war against our freedoms. That is the ball game. Our future freedoms. No one running for president has ever done that before.

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While I don’t think every little thing Biden has done is peachy keen and fabulous, I have never felt that way about ANY president, including historically admirable ones from before I was able to vote. But on the whole Biden’s policies have had quite a beneficial effect on this country economically. To say otherwise is to deny reality. The US economy right now is the best in the world. Yes there are people whose boats have not been lifted by the rising tide, but there were plenty of people whose boats were sinking under Trump as well, and under Obama, under Bush, under Clinton… the point being that in any economy there are winners and losers. But right now if you want a job, you can get one. Wages are rising above the rate of inflation nationwide, and inflation is down dramatically over the past year. I think Biden has done a great job domestically, and the facts bear me out. Foreign policy is trickier, but in general, an American president who supports democracies and opposes autocrats is OK in my book. And although Trump has MAGA world believing differently, the rest of the world’s democracies heaved a huge sigh of relief when Biden won. But if you will not recognize truth when you see it, are you not going to vote at all?

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Ken Tingley's avatar

Well said.

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Ken Tingley's avatar

So you are comfortable with someone who will do all these things again - including felonies - and perhaps take this country to a place none of us can imagine? I think we all can disagree over policy and should respect those disagreements, but how can you risk the future of democracy? I really want to know.

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Deborah Weiss's avatar

Choose wisely.

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Mary Horning's avatar

Trivially, I disagree with your use of the word affect. My belief is that it should read effect. Just saying.😊

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Brenda Phillips's avatar

More died in 2021 than in 2020 for two reasons:

-First-simple geometric progression due to the increasing numbers becoming infected and

-Second- because of the Trumpian backlash against both vaccines and masks which exacerbated the evolution of even more contagious versions of the virus.

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one of the things that carltucker slappy ignores is many states (usually red states) cut back on restrictions

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Red states had higher COVID-19 infection rates and deaths in 2021 compared to blue states. Red states implemented fewer political decisions to mitigate COVID-19 than blue states. Biological factors such as age and obesity predicted deaths only in red states. Vaccination rates predicted fewer deaths in blue states.

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10684792/#:~:text=Red%20states%20had%20higher%20COVID,2021%20compared%20to%20blue%20states.&text=Red%20states%20implemented%20fewer%20political,COVID%2D19%20than%20blue%20states.&text=Biological%20factors%20such%20as%20age,deaths%20only%20in%20red%20states.&text=Vaccination%20rates%20predicted%20fewer%20deaths%20in%20blue%20states.

red states reserve the right to kill people

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Brenda Phillips's avatar

Trump does not put “American” interests first. He attacks every element in our citizenry that does not serve his personal interests. He attacks our very diversity, which is one of our nation’s greatest strengths. He attacks women, people of color, and most egregiously: the disabled. Do you disagree?

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We are divided into those who accept the diversity and those who do not.

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Tanya Goldstein's avatar

What do you mean, accepting diversity within the context of norms? How is diversity superimposed over norms?

To each his own as long as it poses no infringement on others is not the majority view of most conservatives, that’s for sure!

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How do disabled or transgender or people of color become excluded from “American norms”? I think our original “norms” included only white men of considerable wealth. Haven’t our imperfect American norms as defined by constitutional rights, evolved over our two hundred + years of the grand experiment? Shouldn’t they continue to evolve? Do you disagree that our strength and growth as a nation depends on our diversity? Lots of questions,

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Mary Horning's avatar

Sadly, I do think it is here to stay.

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Barbara Sealy's avatar

"Fibbers of the world" made me laugh out loud. Isn't it sad how many ways we have found to say people who lie now? Untruths, misspoke, alternate facts, false statements, etc. So many ways to say people are dishonest...When I went to St. Mary's the nun's used to say when you told a lie, it put a black mark on your soul. They wanted all of these little kids to have a visual in their mind of what happened when things came out of your mouth that weren't true. Old school but effective back then.:)

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Edward Low's avatar

This is my biggest complaint about the media

from fox to cnn

from msnbc to oan

from time to national review

They all know hmpy trmpy is lying

They know that and they know when pos_tfnKKK repeats those lies (and makes up her own). They know she lies

But no one will be objective and say that.

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Ken Tingley's avatar

I think that is a broad generalization. I think many call out the lies, but the lying is so relentless it is difficult to do that without sounding partisan. Striking that balance is difficult.

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1) when one party lies and take credit for items they voted against... there is no balance... there is no need to say 'it is pos_tfnKKK's opinion' she is repeating a lie

2) the difficulty is not doing it, the difficulty is doing it right... and if you don't do it at all

and that is the evil, that is the darkness

and

"democracy dies in darkness"

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June Woodard's avatar

I take my old newspapers to the SPCA to be used under cages. I got the idea years ago from a woman at the Shirt Factory that had a craft shop.

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Maureen Barber's avatar

We do the same thing! The SPCA is happy to get them.

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Don Shuler's avatar

Reminds me of something that happened several years ago, when I was still living in Ohio. As president of the city school board, my picture sometimes appeared in the local paper. One Sunday, a young woman who worked for a veterinarian told me she was cleaning the cages the past week and pulled out a news sheet with my picture on it, and I had provided the perfect target for one of the pets. We laughed together, and I still laugh over it.

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😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Ken Tingley's avatar

People used to tell me something similar all the time when I wrote a column for The Post-Star.

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Deborah Weiss's avatar

How does she defend it? She is obsessed with the fact that it may help her advance in the dying Republican Party. She is a self serving skank who has deleted everything in her social media from the days when she tried to show a shred of decency and advocacy for her constituents. She has become a complete disgrace. Unable to work for the betterment of all Americans she's divisive and haggard and helps lead the least productive House of Representatives in history.

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She doesn't

Every show I have seen her on she skirts the truth. One recent one was very devious, the interviewer (I believe from CNN), pointed out pos_tfnKKK was critical of the insurrection. Her response, after a clip was played, "You need to watch my entire speech.

I did, she did not call the criminals 'hostages' in the speech. pos_tfnKKK said nothing that she claims she said now = = = > if you watch the entire clip because she is a liar.

her lies on CNN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG5aOiPv7cY

the entire speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk4uuu5WB7A

it is short 5:27

• she supported the Capitol Police, something she no longer does

• she voted against a legal election

• 'the right to vote is sacred' yet she knew the election was legal, but she tried to take away the rights of the voters

• she did NOT call anyone 'hostages' back then

• 'this is about the constitution' she said, but she has done everything to NOT support the constitution

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One of the sad and tragic outcomes of the Trump presidency is the politicalization of public health.

Even today, there's a significant difference in Covid vaccine rates between the two major political parties -- 30 percent of self-identified Republicans are not vaccinated, versus 10 percent of Democrats. A NYT review of CDC data shows that, on average, the higher the share of Trump voters in a county, the higher the cumulative death rate from Covid, up to twice as high in those counties that voted in excess of 70 percent for Trump.

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Where should they have sent them?

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I am asking the Monday morning quarterbacks where they would have had the overcrowded hospitals send them.

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Hospitals were beyond capacity. Not sure how far away the Javits Center would have been or who was supposed to transport all those patients over those long distances.

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I think your claim is unrealistic. The U.S. Naval vessel Comfort and the Javits Center were initially set up to receive and treat overflow non-Covid patients to free up area hospital beds for Covid-positive patients. Later, they were re-tooled to accommodate and treat some Covid-positive patients. If memory serves, Javits could treat 450 Covid-positive patients, and the Comfort 100, at any one time. And your claim is this would meet the NYC area hospital need to place recovering nursing home patients? (And the idea of transporting a nursing home patient from western NY to NYC for temporary care is, I think, ludicrous.)

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Not sure where you are "hearing" that, but the latest CDC findings say that is not true. "The current evidence does not support the existence of a safety issue. FDA and CDC will continue to evaluate data as they are available and update the public as needed." Considering the widespread use of the vaccine - and the reduction in Covid case - I believe the vaccine would have been pulled from use if that was the case.

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My cousin thought he was too young and healthy to get a jab. For that decision, he paid with his life.

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Brenda Phillips's avatar

Sorry for your loss, Chriss.

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Barbara Sealy's avatar

That is so sad. I'm sorry. I wish people just went with the scientific evidence and this wasn't all so politicized. I remember holding my breath when my kids got all of their vaccinations but....

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Diane Collins's avatar

Yes we need reminders! Please repeat this column next summer. There will be more to add.

Diane Collins

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There is probably more to add since this weekend.

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Terry Barber's avatar

What if your child's teachers lied, what if your doctor lied, what if your banker lied, what if your good neighbor lied, what if your clergy lied, etc. ???? Aren't the futures of our school districts, villages, towns, cities, counties, states, and country dependent on the truth? Please think about this!

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And did you approve of those supposed lies, ANONYMOUS? You seem okay with Trump’s and Elise’s. Is your outrage selective? Remember Fauci was appointed by Trump. And Fauci never said that Trump only weighed 239 pounds, LOL.

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He was appointed to the NIAID in 1984, but he was on Trump’s pandemic advisory board.

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StefaniQ doesn't defend anything. She simply keeps lying, and builds upon lies. It's a Goebbels thing. Her noise will increase in the near future, as the traitorous cult leader is again held accountable for crimes he alledgedly committed

It's hard to believe that the sexual assaulting traitorous fraud did so much damage in such little time, since most of his term was spent watching Fox or playing golf.

In 2 weeks the cult leader's pornstar hush money case begins in Manhattan. The jury will hear evidence regarding 34 counts of offering a false instrument for filing in the first degree, which is a class E felony in New York State. The sentence for a Class E felony in New York State is between 1 and 4 years. It will be the cult leader's first criminal trial, and he will be required to be in court every moment that his trial is in session. Among the many expected to testify will be a suspected accomplice in the cover up, former Enquirer publisher David Pecker. Mr. Pecker is thought to have made a deal with DA Bragg to avoid prosecution and testified to the grand jury last year, prior to it handing down the indictment.

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Oh, Ken, Ken, Ken. Honey, you forgot one critical item: Trump hates all the people his MAGA followers hate. Black people. Brown people. Gay people. Trans people. Women - or at least independent women. It’s all about white, male supremacy.

Oh. And they also hate intellectuals. And Jews. And Muslims. And Sikhs. …

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No, Brave Sir Anonymous. Not all Republicans. Just MAGA cultists who somehow rationalize trump’s racism, misogyny, etc.

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Ken Tingley's avatar

Huh, no clue what you are talking about.

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I willl ask you the same question I asked to Carl above: The point of this essay was to show the cumulative reality of Trump's actions. You can pick apart one point or another, but seriously, does the cumulative affect of all these actions have any affect on you? Do you think it is just political. These things happened. He did all these things. Does have any affect on you at all? You believe this person should be president again?

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Tanya Goldstein's avatar

The guilty flee when none pursue, Mr. Anonymous.

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Deborah Weiss's avatar

No one said what YOU said. Nor are they writing anonymously.

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Ken Tingley's avatar

By the time I finished writing this, I was so depressed I didn't know what to do. I am sure I forgot many other offenses.

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Brenda Phillips's avatar

Their hate is so broad, it is astonishing.

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There is more to be said with a side by side, see:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/10/opinion/haley-voters-support-biden.html#commentsContainer

But even presenting the comparables will not change some of Stefanik's MAGA supporters like Mark Frost of the Glens Falls Chronicle. Go ahead, ask him point by point. Sad.

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Wondering how you fail to see both sides.

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Ken Tingley's avatar

Wow, I have followers?

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Janet Flinchbaugh's avatar

Leave the leaves,Ken, the bugs and bees need the cover for awhile longer.

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Louise Jensen's avatar

Was just going to post the same comment!!! Thank you.

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“One of the repercussions of The Post-Star reducing its printing to just three days a week has been a diminishing supply of newsprint to use in starting the fire.”

I don’t have fires to start, but I pick up the Chronicle to wrap my coffee grounds for the compost. The only downside is if I accidentally read one of Mark Frost’s ill-informed(hope that’s a polite enough word) opinions.

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Oh yes! I'm frustrated with the PS also but the Chronicle is pitiful these days.

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I remember the days of empty store shelves. Everyone was scrambling to find toilet paper, paper towels, hand sanitizer, masks, pet food etc. God forbid your car needed repair. Ah the good 'ol days under the Trump presidency.

This statement was taken from Alabama Sen. Katie Britt's senatorial page "WASHINGTON, D.C., February 9, 2023 – Senator Katie Britt (R-Ala.) today led a coalition of her colleagues in introducing a package of four pieces of legislation aimed at sealing and securing the southern border, cracking down on asylum abuse, keeping American communities and families safe, and ultimately ending the ongoing border crisis.

“There is an unprecedented humanitarian and national security crisis at our southern border,” said Senator Britt.

Sen. Katie Britt voted no on the border bill that she co-sponsored. Trump told the republicans to vote no on the border legislation. Good governing by our do nothing Congress?

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This statement was taken from Alabama Sen. Katie Britt's senatorial page "WASHINGTON, D.C., February 9, 2023 – Senator Katie Britt (R-Ala.) today led a coalition of her colleagues in introducing a package of four pieces of legislation aimed at sealing and securing the southern border, cracking down on asylum abuse, keeping American communities and families safe, and ultimately ending the ongoing border crisis. She co-sponsored the bill, then voted no after Trump urged republicans to vote no. Something is better than nothing which is what our congress gave the American people. BTW where's Trump's/Republican plan for "repeal and replace Obamacare"? Still waiting on that or was that a "do something that does nothing effort to placate".

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Not sure how one commenter can possibly be so wrong about everything. The meanness is so apparent. But then, for the GOP and its supporters, cruelty is the point.

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Well. Tell us what a pedofil is?

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Tanya Goldstein's avatar

How did Trump secure the border?

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Well, if they are here illegally, by definition they can be neither Democrats nor Republicans. If they ever become citizens, then they have as much right to vote as you or I. Yes, it would seem fewer migrants came during the Trump years, but the numbers are murky. How many were deported who had just arrived? How many who were already here? Probably his fierce and vitriolic anti-immigrant stance kept some from attempting to enter; we can disagree on whether that’s the face America should be showing to the world. I feel that rather than trying to keep them all out, we should put more resources toward allowing people who are seeking freedom and the American dream to legally enter, start working, and start contributing.

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You sound paranoid. Writing anonymously emphasizes that and decreases your credibility.

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Tine to COME OUT or GET OUT.

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I'm frustrated with why, if the border is such and issue, the republicans voted against a bipartisan bill? It appears anything that looks "good" during the Biden administration is either voted against and credit taken by republicans or voted down because they don't want anything contributing to a positive change during this administration. I realize Trump told them to vote against it, but really... just do the right thing.

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Funny to notice how Carl starts his piece with...."Just to be clear...." THAT is, pretty funny.......

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