And sadly it is so blatant. Last election cycle stefanik dressed in brown and rode in a UPS truck to 'deliver' I assume the ride was for 10 minutes and a pretty photo op -- but I have to assume because stiffy avoids the details
then one searches for campaign contributions and we find United Parcel Service has given stefanik no less than $10,000. In return at the very least, they got a free commercial from our high road representative... but if you cross-reference her votes... they received much more than a commercial -- for her donors, she delivers
Elise is a treasonist opportunist who I dream about being defeated. She continues to deny our valid election of Biden. She is hateful in her descriptions of her opponents.
We see now more than ever, her own ambitions coming first.
One can see it in plain sight any time she and that same group of 45 lackeys get in front of a mic. It’s humorous to watch her behind the guys at a presser, literally quivering to speak.
Similar, to say, a child waiting in line at the ice cream parlor, or sometimes it looks like man’s best friend anticipating a milk bone.
What’s not humorous, is the fact so many people still vote for her, thinking she actually DID have anything to do with what Sen Schumer actually has done for the betterment of our district.
I hope you’re right. I see stories where Trump supporters say they want someone who’ll push Trump policies without the drama associated with him.
That’s kind of a point I’m making. The North Country could have another Republican or a moderate Democrat who would provide the same service without the stain that comes with being represented by Elise Stefanik.
Her campaign in the past has already called Castelli a socialist and now is painting him, based on disinformation, as a drunkard and womanizer. The same woman who’s trashing the FBI in service to Trump.
You have to be pretty nihilistic to continue to support her, IMO. Just adopt the position that values don’t really matter, only winning the political match.
Mr. Campbell may be ok with Stefanik’s transition to “ Full MAGA” which has caused immeasurable damage to the country. I’m amazed how she distributes money provided by bills she voted against and brags about it constantly when she deserves no credit at all. As for the student debt, the Republicans have no problem with their rich friends with PPP loans that were forgiven yet fuss over helping the middle class ( finally!) I wonder if Stefanik ever needed to even take out student loans for her Harvard Education? In the end she probably paid less for college than others that spend a lifetime only paying the interest and haven’t touched the principal.
To be honest, it sounds like Mr. Campbell is looking at Elise with blinders on. I understand you wanting to give him the benefit of the doubt, and try to see his side of it, but Elise is more often making it crystal clear that she is becoming more of a liar, and other news agencies are reporting on her change in attitude and commitment. I see that she occasionally gets bills passed that help some in the community, but when it comes to helping a wider majority of constituents, she opposes the bills. Such as bills for veterans, women's rights, infrastructure, etc. These bills address a much wider scope than what she wants to deal with. Unfortunately, Mr. Campbell doesn't seem to get that. You have written about what Elise is ACTUALLY doing or not doing. She certainly doesn't seem to be hiding her actions. In today's world, unfortunately people can't keep looking at everything with rose colored glasses. Deceit and deception are raising their ugly heads, and Elise is a huge supporter of both.
Keep doing what you have been doing, I think you've been in this business long enough to recognize a skunk when you smell one. Meaning Elise of course. 🙂
He wants to come off as a defender, but is an endorser.. And Mr. Campbell is either exceedingly ignorant or way to willing to ignore the facts about her.
He wants to defend her as part of the vitriol in politics, but he is not part.. she IS the vitriol. her unwarranted and dishonest attacks on social media is NOT a part of the state of politics..
It isn't even stretching the truth.
It is lying.
stefanik has money and power and it seems all republicans want to trade in their spine to be part of or at least in that shadow of evil
Elise Stefanik’s service to the district is no different from what would be received from a Democrat or Republican. Was Bill Owens’ service of the district essentially different in any way?
One thing Owens did not do is rely on the British version of the National Enquirer to smear his opponents as drunks and womanizers. I’m not really pleased with Maury Thompson or the PS going along with that either. That said, I’m not a journalist so I don’t know what the “rules” are.
In comments at the article I’m referring to, Dave Parwana noted the PS never reported on ES’s name being found on a slip of paper in a toilet to be flushed. That was reported by reputable news sources as opposed to the Daily Mail.
I’m convinced her association with Trump is going to lead her metaphorically to where that scrap of paper was. It’s going to be hard to feel anything but schadenfreude if that’s the case.
I appreciate your comments and insight as to where you were going when you wrote the article. Just reading the comments you have gotten already proves the point that you said you took from my comment. People really enjoy the social media disrespect type of nature these days. It is truly a different world being a public servant in todays political enviroment. I'm a very positive person, optimism is what I'm known for. Former Greenwich Supervisor Sara Idleman said to me one day," Brian, the one thing I really like about you is you see the good in everyone", today that can be used against me. WE all need to take the high road. One side tries to outdue the other on the race to the bottom. There will never be a winner in that race. The winner will be whoever turns that around. Could that be Elise? Possibly. Things get better footing from grass roots, it never hurts when there is help from the top.
To make this sort of turn around it has to start locally. My friend and colleague, Mike Wild, at the IDA Board recently made a comment at a Warren County Board of Supervisors' meeting that i will paraphrase: that we need to return to civility. In some of your articles I have read and even this one today, the comments incite more lack of civility than nurturing an opportunity to find a path forward in a respectable manner. Stop rehashing and start rebuilding! So I will suggest a solution.
Lets use LOGIC. As an acronym: Local Officials Get It Correct How is that for a start? How about our Town and County Officials start being respectful to one another and their constituency instead of trying to be like the National scene. It will be noticed and appreciated, but will take time and focus. Rome wasn't built in a day, but it sure didn't take long to tear it down. America may be in the same position.
I can assure you that for the most part your locally elected officials all work together. Our representatives in the North Country at the State level all talk and work together. I can't say enough for Carrie Woerner, Matt Simpson, Dan Stec, and Billy Jones. They are all responsive to our needs. Mr Schumer and Elise are extremely good at representing us. Our district and region have not been left out, we have flourished compared to other areas.
Thanks Ken for your response. Communication is the key to everything. I know at the end of the day I've done my small part to make our region a better place. I feel bad for the commentor that dreams about someone being unelected. Dreams are supposed to be sweet dreams, not revenge. That should not be the American Dream!
“WE all need to take the high road. One side tries to outdue the other on the race to the bottom. There will never be a winner in that race. The winner will be whoever turns that around. Could that be Elise? Possibly.”
Elise is currently using a British tabloid to smear her opponent.
“Woman, 63, ‘becomes PREGNANT in the mouth’ with baby squid after eating calamari.”
That’s an actual headline from the paper whose “reporting” ES is using to smear Castelli. Is that the best source she could find for rumors that he’s a drunk and a womanizer? Does it really seem like she’s trying to get us all to sing kumbaya by avoiding any issues and just going straight to gutter politics?
The article in the PS I’m referring to naturally has ES, DeGrasse and George Ferone making some vague noises about how Elise has been attacked and victimized. You know, without any actual examples of how and by whom. That would be useful if they wanted a discussion. Generalization is so much easier, tho.
Don’t know if you read my letters. I try to be scrupulously factual and unfailingly honest. I’m in church every Sunday. People in my church read my letters and I try not to offend them. That keeps me polite. At least I hope so. My very favorite take was from a lady who told me she didn’t agree with them, but they were well-written and she was a former English teacher.
So, I’ll say to you, Mr. Campbell, I don’t agree with you, but your comment was well-written.
If the right thing for Mr. Campbell is to defend stefanik, it should not be part of a plan to ignore the dishonestly and immorality of stiffy
He doesn't mention voting against a legal ellection, defending an insurrection.I sense that stiffy in part funded and organized the attack on the capitol (with all the dark money and superpac -- well and the fact that has tons of money in that cloak and dagger operation). ...
This is a great point, and even as a great point, it should also be acknowledged it isn't half the story.. it isn't 1/100th the story
Starting with deGRASSe and most of stefanik's henchmen who stefanik 'should' take responsibility for, but of course, ignores.
The racist posts, the contacting subversive groups to attend rallies.. the taunting of reporters.. though I do admit his 'never has been honest' statements are on brand.
I believe he was the mastermind of hiring a teen to spy on children in #ny21
And I guarantee Mr. Campbell looked the other way... and it had to be a hard look away that he proudly did
Since we’re here talking about Elise the Uniter, I’ll just mention that she has yet to say in any way, shape or form that Biden won the election. She has, in effect, helped keep alive the Big Lie conspiracy theory.
The only thing she’s done is to congratulate Biden and Harris on being “sworn in.” That’s petty and dishonest and only serves herself and Trump. It also helps perpetuate a lie. Is that how she’s going to bring people together?
That’s why in my comment below I specifically want to hear by whom Elise is being “attacked.” It’s a little too easy for her to say some anonymous person on Twitter said something mean.
I want to hope no one would do that.. but I know she has done many things that would trigger the mentally short
and
I want to know, why didn't she take that to the police.. so they could investigate it, check the note for fingerprints... ( was she afraid they might want a handwriting sample from her and her husband??? ) If you support the blue, if you believe in the police, wouldn't you want them to investigate?
I would also agree that any criticism that Rep. Stefanik gets pales compared to what her and her henchmen dish out. And usually, they are the ones firing the first shot.
“You seriously are responding to someone with 14 followers? Wow.” 😆👏
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“usually, they are the ones firing the first shot.”
Yes, we’ll never forget the incessant use of Taxin’ Tedra even after her lies were pointed out. Some Democratic functionary called her Elsie and she whined about it for 2 months (possible hyperbole).
In response, I have to say: "there is no transparency in the stefanik administration"
I have to say this because who knows who posted stefanik's 'tag and drag' and under who's direction?
My guess it was a woman staffer who was a little triggered by the overweight comment.
Six years ago, I would say some of the attacks on stiffy are evil, misogynistic and unfair, but in that time I have seen her posts, the posts of her staff. and now I think people calling out stefanik's weight... is more a tit for tat (tit for fat?) than anything. I have ridiculed her in many ways, but once it became clear there was no accountability for the lies of her posts, the various reposts photoshops (in stories or directly) --- all bets are off, as are all concerns for civility.
Mr. Campbell commented indirectly about the lack of civility -- actually implied that it was okay for stiffy to do it because it was part of the game.
The difference he doesn't understand.. a wild post from someone with 14 followers becomes the place stefanik gets down into the gutter? But I suppose it might have to do with social media espionage
" social media espionage " = where a campaign has burner accounts to create fake posts. I believe this has to be common with stefanik because almost every time you see a letter to the editor it is from a staffer or an intern posing as a 'concern resident'.
So maybe there is something about that that made the stefanik campaign think ' kilog007 ' was from the opposition
Brian for standing up for what you believe. Nothing ever wrong with that. I hope you also notice from the comments - yeah, they can be tough - they are not criticizing her policy decisions or where she stands on health care, they are calling her out on the misinformation that she delivers. You are right. There are a lot of voters that are really smart and won’t be hood-winked forever. But there are others that don’t even want to put in the effort. The one thing I will totall endorse is that most of the locally elected officials do try to work for their constituents. And as you see from the comments here, there is only one person being called out for bad decisions. And that is Rep. Stefanik.
1- there are so many things to say to this... and what you have quoted Mr. Campbell as saying... but before I go to read his post... I will point out a couple things
stefanik has a large staff, from what I can tell, she has never hired a #ny21-er or giving a #ny21-er an internship in her DC office
and on stefanik's many social media positions (facebook 2x, twitter 2x, instagram.. and I am sure she is on parler and truth social) she has never responded to me, or anyone else who has posted.
stefanik is called out on her lies again and again and NO response, so the irony of any comment by Mr. Campbell....? in his one post response to "The Front Page - Upstate New York" (which I kind of cosider social media) he has written a response with more words than stefanik has in eight years has posted in eight years.
EIGHT YEARS
so Mr. Campbell wins the most -- in a competition that was a low bar of handful of words.
The one response I do recall was when someone made a comment about stefanik's weight, and she told her supporters, openly, to attack that person.
That is some evil manure on stefanik's part, but I am sure Mr. Campbell called stefanik up and told her so
• I am so glad the democrats, green party and various independents, never hire a teen from a different district to spy on the children of #ny21, then lie about it, then lie about the lie, then lie again, and to this day, doesn't address the fact she hired a teen to do dirty deeds. On this high road, I am glad you would never condone spying on children for political gain.
• in the last congressional race against I am so proud of the democrat and green party candidates for taking the high rand when they took the No Lie Pledge
• I am glad the democrat challenger in 2022 is willing to talk to the local media and more importantly circulate through the district and meets with his future constituents... isn't that a great thing
• I am so glad the democrat does not take credit for all the bills the #ny21 republican turned into law... as a way to say he has results. But then I am glad he does point out how democrats have passed many bills that make life for the residents of your district and my district better places.
• Please join me on the 'high road' and acknowledge that Matt Castelli is the High Road Candidate we should pull together with and elect.
I would like to point out all the things our current rep has done to #ny21, but since we are on the high road I can't
The last note of Fauci leaving, could not put more of an exclamation point on the evil of stefanik.
She knows Fauci is a good guy. She knows he doesn't have a political agenda -- unless she considers saving lives a political agenda and if she does.. ---> she stands for not saving lives?
Every worker in America should be afraid of her actions
Teachers for teaching history
Law Enforcement for enforcing the law
Scientists for explaining how things work
She no longer cares what is right/correct she just wants to put fear into the weak-minded and lie to them that a vote for stefanik protects their lives or (worse) what they 'want' to believe.
Great dialogue, but as you can see from the comments civility is not ready to rule the day. I believe we will get there. I just hope your readers understand they aren’t always going to agree 100% with any elected official. Remember they are human, make mistakes, but in all that they are trying to do the right things. You can’t take it personally. I’ve gotten credit and blame for things I’ve done or not even been involved in over the past fifteen years, because people really don’t know what we actually do. Communication is the key to everything. May our paths cross again. I’ll keep working with everyone because that is the way it should be done.
“Great dialogue, but as you can see from the comments civility is not ready to rule the day.”
I can understand you not wanting to get into a debate with so many folks here opposed to your position.
It takes some nerve to talk about incivility in this forum after presenting Elise Stefanik as someone who is going to bridge divides, tho. Apparently you have no problem with her rhetoric. That makes you as partisan as anyone here.
The problem I see in our communities is the unwillingness of people to scrutinize their own preconceptions and philosophies. For instance:
“ Facing some significant fiscal challenges in 2020, Campbell returned to his role as budget officer. But it is what he said after being appointed that should impress you.
“Honestly, our Board of Supervisors are all fiscally conservative,” The Post-Star reported in 2020. “There’s not a Republican or Democrat demographic. Where we fall short is everyone pulling in the same direction for the greater cause of Washington County.”
What I see in his comment is a recognition that the “fiscally conservative” predisposition of the board does not seem to be working for Washington county, but I don’t see him considering that different ideas might be more in the interest of the people, government, and business climate of Washington County. He appears unwilling to even consider that the representation given to the area may not be working. It is almost as if “fiscal conservatives” are afraid to vote for people who think more like their children who move away because they feel stifled by the communities they grew up in. As if they are afraid policies of (let me just say it) Democrats might be successful. Do they ever consider the policies Democrats propose deeply or does their thinking stop at “Democrats just want to tax and spend?”
To my way of thinking there are too many people with closed minds in our communities and we suffer because of it.
David, I will check it out.
And sadly it is so blatant. Last election cycle stefanik dressed in brown and rode in a UPS truck to 'deliver' I assume the ride was for 10 minutes and a pretty photo op -- but I have to assume because stiffy avoids the details
then one searches for campaign contributions and we find United Parcel Service has given stefanik no less than $10,000. In return at the very least, they got a free commercial from our high road representative... but if you cross-reference her votes... they received much more than a commercial -- for her donors, she delivers
Elise is a treasonist opportunist who I dream about being defeated. She continues to deny our valid election of Biden. She is hateful in her descriptions of her opponents.
We see now more than ever, her own ambitions coming first.
One can see it in plain sight any time she and that same group of 45 lackeys get in front of a mic. It’s humorous to watch her behind the guys at a presser, literally quivering to speak.
Similar, to say, a child waiting in line at the ice cream parlor, or sometimes it looks like man’s best friend anticipating a milk bone.
What’s not humorous, is the fact so many people still vote for her, thinking she actually DID have anything to do with what Sen Schumer actually has done for the betterment of our district.
Piggybacking I think is the term.
Especially, considering how nasty she can be on social media. I always believed local voters did not like that sort of behavior.
I hope you’re right. I see stories where Trump supporters say they want someone who’ll push Trump policies without the drama associated with him.
That’s kind of a point I’m making. The North Country could have another Republican or a moderate Democrat who would provide the same service without the stain that comes with being represented by Elise Stefanik.
Her campaign in the past has already called Castelli a socialist and now is painting him, based on disinformation, as a drunkard and womanizer. The same woman who’s trashing the FBI in service to Trump.
You have to be pretty nihilistic to continue to support her, IMO. Just adopt the position that values don’t really matter, only winning the political match.
Mr. Campbell may be ok with Stefanik’s transition to “ Full MAGA” which has caused immeasurable damage to the country. I’m amazed how she distributes money provided by bills she voted against and brags about it constantly when she deserves no credit at all. As for the student debt, the Republicans have no problem with their rich friends with PPP loans that were forgiven yet fuss over helping the middle class ( finally!) I wonder if Stefanik ever needed to even take out student loans for her Harvard Education? In the end she probably paid less for college than others that spend a lifetime only paying the interest and haven’t touched the principal.
I suspect she probably never had student loans. Harvard has a lot of money.
To be honest, it sounds like Mr. Campbell is looking at Elise with blinders on. I understand you wanting to give him the benefit of the doubt, and try to see his side of it, but Elise is more often making it crystal clear that she is becoming more of a liar, and other news agencies are reporting on her change in attitude and commitment. I see that she occasionally gets bills passed that help some in the community, but when it comes to helping a wider majority of constituents, she opposes the bills. Such as bills for veterans, women's rights, infrastructure, etc. These bills address a much wider scope than what she wants to deal with. Unfortunately, Mr. Campbell doesn't seem to get that. You have written about what Elise is ACTUALLY doing or not doing. She certainly doesn't seem to be hiding her actions. In today's world, unfortunately people can't keep looking at everything with rose colored glasses. Deceit and deception are raising their ugly heads, and Elise is a huge supporter of both.
Keep doing what you have been doing, I think you've been in this business long enough to recognize a skunk when you smell one. Meaning Elise of course. 🙂
He wants to come off as a defender, but is an endorser.. And Mr. Campbell is either exceedingly ignorant or way to willing to ignore the facts about her.
He wants to defend her as part of the vitriol in politics, but he is not part.. she IS the vitriol. her unwarranted and dishonest attacks on social media is NOT a part of the state of politics..
It isn't even stretching the truth.
It is lying.
stefanik has money and power and it seems all republicans want to trade in their spine to be part of or at least in that shadow of evil
Exactly. She doesn't even hide it anymore. Other outlets have seen it too.
Elise Stefanik’s service to the district is no different from what would be received from a Democrat or Republican. Was Bill Owens’ service of the district essentially different in any way?
One thing Owens did not do is rely on the British version of the National Enquirer to smear his opponents as drunks and womanizers. I’m not really pleased with Maury Thompson or the PS going along with that either. That said, I’m not a journalist so I don’t know what the “rules” are.
In comments at the article I’m referring to, Dave Parwana noted the PS never reported on ES’s name being found on a slip of paper in a toilet to be flushed. That was reported by reputable news sources as opposed to the Daily Mail.
I’m convinced her association with Trump is going to lead her metaphorically to where that scrap of paper was. It’s going to be hard to feel anything but schadenfreude if that’s the case.
I do appreciate the irony of someone who serves on the House Intelligence committee spreading the equivalent of disinformation.
And being in cahoots with devin nunnes to share the information they were finding about don the con WITH don the con
In defending stefanik, one must also endorse treason (sorry Mr. Campbell but the we can see the treason from the forest)
Hi Ken,
I appreciate your comments and insight as to where you were going when you wrote the article. Just reading the comments you have gotten already proves the point that you said you took from my comment. People really enjoy the social media disrespect type of nature these days. It is truly a different world being a public servant in todays political enviroment. I'm a very positive person, optimism is what I'm known for. Former Greenwich Supervisor Sara Idleman said to me one day," Brian, the one thing I really like about you is you see the good in everyone", today that can be used against me. WE all need to take the high road. One side tries to outdue the other on the race to the bottom. There will never be a winner in that race. The winner will be whoever turns that around. Could that be Elise? Possibly. Things get better footing from grass roots, it never hurts when there is help from the top.
To make this sort of turn around it has to start locally. My friend and colleague, Mike Wild, at the IDA Board recently made a comment at a Warren County Board of Supervisors' meeting that i will paraphrase: that we need to return to civility. In some of your articles I have read and even this one today, the comments incite more lack of civility than nurturing an opportunity to find a path forward in a respectable manner. Stop rehashing and start rebuilding! So I will suggest a solution.
Lets use LOGIC. As an acronym: Local Officials Get It Correct How is that for a start? How about our Town and County Officials start being respectful to one another and their constituency instead of trying to be like the National scene. It will be noticed and appreciated, but will take time and focus. Rome wasn't built in a day, but it sure didn't take long to tear it down. America may be in the same position.
I can assure you that for the most part your locally elected officials all work together. Our representatives in the North Country at the State level all talk and work together. I can't say enough for Carrie Woerner, Matt Simpson, Dan Stec, and Billy Jones. They are all responsive to our needs. Mr Schumer and Elise are extremely good at representing us. Our district and region have not been left out, we have flourished compared to other areas.
Thanks Ken for your response. Communication is the key to everything. I know at the end of the day I've done my small part to make our region a better place. I feel bad for the commentor that dreams about someone being unelected. Dreams are supposed to be sweet dreams, not revenge. That should not be the American Dream!
“WE all need to take the high road. One side tries to outdue the other on the race to the bottom. There will never be a winner in that race. The winner will be whoever turns that around. Could that be Elise? Possibly.”
Elise is currently using a British tabloid to smear her opponent.
“Woman, 63, ‘becomes PREGNANT in the mouth’ with baby squid after eating calamari.”
That’s an actual headline from the paper whose “reporting” ES is using to smear Castelli. Is that the best source she could find for rumors that he’s a drunk and a womanizer? Does it really seem like she’s trying to get us all to sing kumbaya by avoiding any issues and just going straight to gutter politics?
The article in the PS I’m referring to naturally has ES, DeGrasse and George Ferone making some vague noises about how Elise has been attacked and victimized. You know, without any actual examples of how and by whom. That would be useful if they wanted a discussion. Generalization is so much easier, tho.
Don’t know if you read my letters. I try to be scrupulously factual and unfailingly honest. I’m in church every Sunday. People in my church read my letters and I try not to offend them. That keeps me polite. At least I hope so. My very favorite take was from a lady who told me she didn’t agree with them, but they were well-written and she was a former English teacher.
So, I’ll say to you, Mr. Campbell, I don’t agree with you, but your comment was well-written.
As I always say, my parents raised me to be a Methodist and a Democrat and I see no reason to change either one.
I was raised to do the right thing.
If the right thing for Mr. Campbell is to defend stefanik, it should not be part of a plan to ignore the dishonestly and immorality of stiffy
He doesn't mention voting against a legal ellection, defending an insurrection.I sense that stiffy in part funded and organized the attack on the capitol (with all the dark money and superpac -- well and the fact that has tons of money in that cloak and dagger operation). ...
This is a great point, and even as a great point, it should also be acknowledged it isn't half the story.. it isn't 1/100th the story
Starting with deGRASSe and most of stefanik's henchmen who stefanik 'should' take responsibility for, but of course, ignores.
The racist posts, the contacting subversive groups to attend rallies.. the taunting of reporters.. though I do admit his 'never has been honest' statements are on brand.
I believe he was the mastermind of hiring a teen to spy on children in #ny21
And I guarantee Mr. Campbell looked the other way... and it had to be a hard look away that he proudly did
Since we’re here talking about Elise the Uniter, I’ll just mention that she has yet to say in any way, shape or form that Biden won the election. She has, in effect, helped keep alive the Big Lie conspiracy theory.
The only thing she’s done is to congratulate Biden and Harris on being “sworn in.” That’s petty and dishonest and only serves herself and Trump. It also helps perpetuate a lie. Is that how she’s going to bring people together?
have you seen this
https://twitter.com/elisestefanik/status/1448624014507880454
That’s why in my comment below I specifically want to hear by whom Elise is being “attacked.” It’s a little too easy for her to say some anonymous person on Twitter said something mean.
That’s ‘nutpicking’ in web lingo.
Thank you for bringing it up.
I think about the story.. which I believe to be more fiction than fact
When stefanik posted a 'note that was left on her car'
"Rot In Hell Fascist Pig"
( https://www.newsweek.com/new-york-elise-stefanik-far-left-1491117 )
I want to believer her, but she is a liar
I want to hope no one would do that.. but I know she has done many things that would trigger the mentally short
and
I want to know, why didn't she take that to the police.. so they could investigate it, check the note for fingerprints... ( was she afraid they might want a handwriting sample from her and her husband??? ) If you support the blue, if you believe in the police, wouldn't you want them to investigate?
I would also agree that any criticism that Rep. Stefanik gets pales compared to what her and her henchmen dish out. And usually, they are the ones firing the first shot.
I didn’t notice Krista’s response before.
“You seriously are responding to someone with 14 followers? Wow.” 😆👏
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“usually, they are the ones firing the first shot.”
Yes, we’ll never forget the incessant use of Taxin’ Tedra even after her lies were pointed out. Some Democratic functionary called her Elsie and she whined about it for 2 months (possible hyperbole).
In response, I have to say: "there is no transparency in the stefanik administration"
I have to say this because who knows who posted stefanik's 'tag and drag' and under who's direction?
My guess it was a woman staffer who was a little triggered by the overweight comment.
Six years ago, I would say some of the attacks on stiffy are evil, misogynistic and unfair, but in that time I have seen her posts, the posts of her staff. and now I think people calling out stefanik's weight... is more a tit for tat (tit for fat?) than anything. I have ridiculed her in many ways, but once it became clear there was no accountability for the lies of her posts, the various reposts photoshops (in stories or directly) --- all bets are off, as are all concerns for civility.
Mr. Campbell commented indirectly about the lack of civility -- actually implied that it was okay for stiffy to do it because it was part of the game.
The difference he doesn't understand.. a wild post from someone with 14 followers becomes the place stefanik gets down into the gutter? But I suppose it might have to do with social media espionage
" social media espionage " = where a campaign has burner accounts to create fake posts. I believe this has to be common with stefanik because almost every time you see a letter to the editor it is from a staffer or an intern posing as a 'concern resident'.
So maybe there is something about that that made the stefanik campaign think ' kilog007 ' was from the opposition
Brian for standing up for what you believe. Nothing ever wrong with that. I hope you also notice from the comments - yeah, they can be tough - they are not criticizing her policy decisions or where she stands on health care, they are calling her out on the misinformation that she delivers. You are right. There are a lot of voters that are really smart and won’t be hood-winked forever. But there are others that don’t even want to put in the effort. The one thing I will totall endorse is that most of the locally elected officials do try to work for their constituents. And as you see from the comments here, there is only one person being called out for bad decisions. And that is Rep. Stefanik.
1- there are so many things to say to this... and what you have quoted Mr. Campbell as saying... but before I go to read his post... I will point out a couple things
stefanik has a large staff, from what I can tell, she has never hired a #ny21-er or giving a #ny21-er an internship in her DC office
and on stefanik's many social media positions (facebook 2x, twitter 2x, instagram.. and I am sure she is on parler and truth social) she has never responded to me, or anyone else who has posted.
stefanik is called out on her lies again and again and NO response, so the irony of any comment by Mr. Campbell....? in his one post response to "The Front Page - Upstate New York" (which I kind of cosider social media) he has written a response with more words than stefanik has in eight years has posted in eight years.
EIGHT YEARS
so Mr. Campbell wins the most -- in a competition that was a low bar of handful of words.
The one response I do recall was when someone made a comment about stefanik's weight, and she told her supporters, openly, to attack that person.
That is some evil manure on stefanik's part, but I am sure Mr. Campbell called stefanik up and told her so
The tweet.
https://twitter.com/elisestefanik/status/1448624014507880454
And the story
https://www.newsweek.com/elise-stefanik-new-york-twitter-harassment-weight-trump-1639307
Dear Mr. Campbel
Let's take a moment and take the high road.
a good, honest person would not
• I am so glad the democrats, green party and various independents, never hire a teen from a different district to spy on the children of #ny21, then lie about it, then lie about the lie, then lie again, and to this day, doesn't address the fact she hired a teen to do dirty deeds. On this high road, I am glad you would never condone spying on children for political gain.
• in the last congressional race against I am so proud of the democrat and green party candidates for taking the high rand when they took the No Lie Pledge
• I am glad the democrat challenger in 2022 is willing to talk to the local media and more importantly circulate through the district and meets with his future constituents... isn't that a great thing
• I am so glad the democrat does not take credit for all the bills the #ny21 republican turned into law... as a way to say he has results. But then I am glad he does point out how democrats have passed many bills that make life for the residents of your district and my district better places.
• Please join me on the 'high road' and acknowledge that Matt Castelli is the High Road Candidate we should pull together with and elect.
I would like to point out all the things our current rep has done to #ny21, but since we are on the high road I can't
And there is also her refusal to take the pledge not to lie in the last election.
The last note of Fauci leaving, could not put more of an exclamation point on the evil of stefanik.
She knows Fauci is a good guy. She knows he doesn't have a political agenda -- unless she considers saving lives a political agenda and if she does.. ---> she stands for not saving lives?
Every worker in America should be afraid of her actions
Teachers for teaching history
Law Enforcement for enforcing the law
Scientists for explaining how things work
She no longer cares what is right/correct she just wants to put fear into the weak-minded and lie to them that a vote for stefanik protects their lives or (worse) what they 'want' to believe.
She has politicized things that are not political
and used her rhetoric as a weapon
Thanks Ken,
Great dialogue, but as you can see from the comments civility is not ready to rule the day. I believe we will get there. I just hope your readers understand they aren’t always going to agree 100% with any elected official. Remember they are human, make mistakes, but in all that they are trying to do the right things. You can’t take it personally. I’ve gotten credit and blame for things I’ve done or not even been involved in over the past fifteen years, because people really don’t know what we actually do. Communication is the key to everything. May our paths cross again. I’ll keep working with everyone because that is the way it should be done.
“Great dialogue, but as you can see from the comments civility is not ready to rule the day.”
I can understand you not wanting to get into a debate with so many folks here opposed to your position.
It takes some nerve to talk about incivility in this forum after presenting Elise Stefanik as someone who is going to bridge divides, tho. Apparently you have no problem with her rhetoric. That makes you as partisan as anyone here.
The problem I see in our communities is the unwillingness of people to scrutinize their own preconceptions and philosophies. For instance:
“ Facing some significant fiscal challenges in 2020, Campbell returned to his role as budget officer. But it is what he said after being appointed that should impress you.
“Honestly, our Board of Supervisors are all fiscally conservative,” The Post-Star reported in 2020. “There’s not a Republican or Democrat demographic. Where we fall short is everyone pulling in the same direction for the greater cause of Washington County.”
What I see in his comment is a recognition that the “fiscally conservative” predisposition of the board does not seem to be working for Washington county, but I don’t see him considering that different ideas might be more in the interest of the people, government, and business climate of Washington County. He appears unwilling to even consider that the representation given to the area may not be working. It is almost as if “fiscal conservatives” are afraid to vote for people who think more like their children who move away because they feel stifled by the communities they grew up in. As if they are afraid policies of (let me just say it) Democrats might be successful. Do they ever consider the policies Democrats propose deeply or does their thinking stop at “Democrats just want to tax and spend?”
To my way of thinking there are too many people with closed minds in our communities and we suffer because of it.